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Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 11:15:11 -0500
From: "Colleen K. Peltomaa" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: [TROM1] RE Solo Auditing
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Pete, thank you for setting a good example and I hope I do the same. I
enjoy most the posts about sessions.
colleen
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Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 18:29:45 +0100
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Il giorno 16/feb/14, alle ore 13:00, [email protected] ha
scritto:
"Opposing goals keep things in existence and generates mass while
complementary goals bring about the vanishment of mass."
Maybe I have a confusion but how do you complement the goal of war?
By having war? How do you complement working for little money and
essentially being a modern slave? By working? Taxes? How do we
complement anything that is undesirable to self, when really someone
is gaining unfairly at the expense of others? See where I'm going?
Hi Cory,
where are are you on the levels of Trom ?
from my point of view , as the whole universe is held together by one
set of opposition goals , the problem is that this set of opposition
goals are not placed in our concious mind.But in a greater mind that
we can not acces right now. We have to get rid from all the mass we
can access , (for example the sex goal package , that is quite
compulsive).Once one get rid of the compulsions , vision of life
should become much clearer.
I am trying to access a superconcious mind , in other words to become
more aware.But it is not ease.Everyday life pulls you deep in the 3D
world , and all of its mechanics.
Two abilities of life are :
1) to bring things into existence
and
2) to bring things out of existence.
period.
but how ? we are like children , and we don't even know all the
potentials of the human body and of the mind.
There is a book from Bruce H. Lipton "the biology of believe" which
says that the thought can influence and change the DNA.So we could
manipulate the DNA to our vantage ! but who knows how ?
we have to learn, learn and learn.
happy Tromming,
alessandro.
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Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 10:58:14 -0800
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This is a route to total freedom of choice . It's not the only route.
It's derived from TROM.
Everything in the games manual has truth . I recommend you use it
more than anything else.
There is nothing more free than total freedom of choice.
Only life can limit the ability of life .
You need to run RI after and before each time you begin and end your session.
You need to re -read this whole page from top to bottom before and
after each session.
Use both self and others simultaneously when running RI.
Make a list .
The list has only two columns and a separate third column.
On the right are the negatives.
On the left are the positives.
Know><not know
Happy><sad
Peace><war
Right ><wrong
Love ><hate
White ><black
Good><bad
Unimportance><importance
Up><down
Day><night
Complement><oppose
The list is endless and the ones I've listed above are just
examples. You'll have cognitions off and on the whole way if it's
done correctly.
If you are not sure what the opposite of the word is, put that word
in column three. You can also look it up in an opposite word
directory online. If you are still not sure , put it in column three.
You can go back to that column when the time comes. You'll know when
that is. Then you can move it over to with the other words you have
certainty with in columns 1 and 2 .
If you latter discover you've made a mistake , you can either switch
it around or move it to the third column and resolve it latter.
You can get to the top by logic alone. But that doesn't mean you will.
You can go exterior using this exercise but that doesn't mean you will.
Nothing in the games manual is invalid. It's all perfectly good tech
. You can abandon this exercise any time and return to the games
manual or use both simultaneously but do not mix them together.
Use this exercise . Then stop. Use TROM. Then stop.
There will be words that are far too difficult for you to know the
difference between the positive and negative legs . Write them in
column three.
Be neat , be organized .
The exercise is finished when you know it's done and no sooner. If
you are not sure, then it's not done.
There's no harm in giving up and then starting up some other day .
Or never using it again. It's your choice. It always has been your
choice. It always will be your choice.
Any questions you have or where this leads to must be answered by
you . Not me. : )
The answers to all your questions are as follows :
Everything and everyone is there because you put them there. : )
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Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 21:40:49 +0000
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Hi Slim I love your last post! Life is Life! As Is!
Love!
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Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2014 07:11:25 -0700
From: Cory Keeler <[email protected]>
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Hi Slim,
You wrote:
"Opposing goals keep things in existence and generates mass while
complementary goals bring about the vanishment of mass."
Maybe I have a confusion but how do you complement the goal of war?
By having war? How do you complement working for little money and
essentially being a modern slave? By working? Taxes? How do we
complement anything that is undesirable to self, when really someone
is gaining unfairly at the expense of others? See where I'm going?
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 14, 2014, at 9:53 PM, Slim <[email protected]> wrote:
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The whole universe is held together by one set opposition goals,
home boy ; )
Opposition keeps all things in existence while complementary goals
bring about vanishment. Ok , Check .
It's a whopper set of opposition goals too. The opposing goals. I
mean look at it . Dang !!
The past of the universe is on the negative side of the legs.
The future of the universe on the positive leg .
You can easily know the past but knowing is the positive leg of the
goal to know.
Know + >< - not know.
The future is not knowable. Yet it's the positive leg of the past
>< future goals package .
Do you see where I'm going with this ?
Future + know +
Past - not know -
The above brings about vanishment.
Future + not know -
Past - know +
The above brings about persistence.
All the negative garbage in the mind is lingering in the past while
all the positive legs are in the future.
Interestingly vanishment is the positive leg of the goals package
Persist - >< +vanish
It would seem that vanishment is the negative leg and persistence
is it's positive
Leg. When something's gone or not there it's a negative and like
wise when a thing is there it's a positive. Not so though. Quite
the opposite.
Hence the danger of running jr goals packages.
Optimism future + >< - past pessimism
Opposing goals keep things in existence and generates mass while
complementary goals bring about the vanishment of mass.
Opposition - >< + complement
It's a perfect opposition set of goals with both legs in opposition.
If you instead , know the future and not know the past , the + -
legs all line up and the opposition goals are vanished by
complementary positive and negative leg goals respectively.
See what I'm saying Yosemite Sam ?
One more thing about jr goals packages.
You don't time break out the negative legs of the goals package .
You put up the positive leg and time break what every shows up..
Makes no difference what shows up . If it's mental mass. Time break
it out.
Don't put the negative legs up ever. It doesn't work .
The goal of time breaking is vanishment which is also the positive
leg of the persist- >< +vanish goals package .
Ok that's all for >now<.
Sent from my iPad mini brah ! ; )
Everything and everyone is there because you and only you put them there.
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Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2014 13:29:59 -0500
From: "Colleen K. Peltomaa" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: [TROM1] RE Using TROM and Scientology, et al
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Slim writes:
"Learn to be independent as soon as you can . You don't need anyone to help
you and the sooner you go into session on your own the sooner you'll be
done with others helping you ever again."
Good advice and basically true. The grades and my auditor help me be more
keyed out and more there for my TROM sessions and give me juicy subjects to
timebreak. The Sedona Method course every day keeps me emotionally
smoothed out. These will drop off like training wheels on a bike -- that
is my intention. To no longer need to have the To-Know postulate sets
requires mastering the practices in TROM. End of story.
Have fun always,
colleen
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Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2014 11:33:19 -0800
From: Pete Mclaughlin <[email protected]>
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Subject: [TROM1] Solo auditing success
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Hi all
My auditing up to now has been haphazard running of whatever was
restimulated by life or reading TROM.
I felt compelled to learn all about TROM before I started seriously
using the tech., just as I won't travel anywhere new without getting
a map that will show me if I have gone past the next turn I should
have made.
I am now ready to start regular sessions daily to begin making
serious progress on TROM but I haven't done metered auditing for 30
years.
I purchased "The Solo Clearing Manual" by Hank Levin and started
doing the procedures in there to get my metering skills up to speed
for solo auditing.
The first few procedures in the book are familiarization drills on
getting and recognizing reads on the E-meter but #5 Guiding the
Client uses the auditing question "Tell me something you are
uncomfortable talking about." Turned out to be very hot. I have had
three sessions so far and the TA count is 5 to 10 divisions in each
of the short sessions.
I am delighted to find that solo auditing consisting of asking the
auditing question out loud and answering out loud works as well as
having a separate therapist.
Keep on TROMing
Pete
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Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2014 13:59:55 -0800
From: Slim <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: [TROM1] Correction regarding RI
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In an earlier post on RI I said to take all the crappy feelings
after running level two and put them around you 360.
This isn't correct .
You create or better put, generate your own mental mass and put it
around you 360. You do this until things cool down and to no more
change.
You do not want to put negative mass you are pulling in around you 360.
You generate your own mental mass and fill the vacuum around you .
Then you won't feel the need to pull in unwanted mental mass to fill
the void.
The negative mass being pulled in is from a vacuum effect after
time breaking out negative charged mental mass.
All negative legs of mass are in the past
All positive legs are in the future .
We sit in between the past and the future and experience the mass
energy and sensations of conflicting postulates.
The mid point between the past and future are where the mass and
sparks are . Energy emanates from the sparks and sensation is
generated from the energy. .
The sensation you feel depends on the goals in conflict.
Mass can still be generated even if one goal overwhelms the other.
It just depends on the degree of conflict between the two legs.
When one goal complements the other , no mass is generated and
vanishment occurs.
If the negative leg of conflicting goals overwhelms the positive leg
. The negative mass is stored in the past with all other negative
charge.
Package delivered.
Have a nice day.
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2014 18:59:39 -0800
From: "Slim ." <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: [TROM1] Scientology and posts from the past
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Ok this has been eating at me all day so im posting this about the COS.
Its so not ok to talk shit about them. Reptilians or what not .lol
String and carrot tech blah blah blah.
Life is life no matter what form it takes good or bad.
Its not ok to talk shit about anyone. We are all life. We all feel the pain
and we all want relief in some way. Ive done allot 0f that. Talked shit.
Its about combining tech. Thats all.
It has its benifits and can be un beneficial too.
The logic is about weather or not we can tell the difference of whats ok to
use or not.
So by just using Trom, you'll lose the benifits of cos tech but also
aviod the liability of getting no where too.
Im not apologizing. Look at what we're doing . Look at our goals . Look at
mine.
I know what I know and just recently realized even more about life using
TROM.
LIFE IS LIFE there is no life and not life. Theres only life and the goals
it brings in and takes out .
I have a long way to go and yet I can see im so close.
When I've gotten there recently it was like who cares its all good but
after returning its like holy crap this is not good. Lol.
Not going to go onto details but any good any org is doing is better than
no good at all. String and carrots or what ever. Good is good. It counts.
I had a 3 year setback with 2 kinds of cancers that began in 2004 but I
didnt know it. Chemo kicked my ass and I was so drugged up it was usless to
proceed.
Now , im back and ive made more positive progress than ever before.
I represent all life not just diamond girl or my own pr the universe's. It
includes the worst of the worst and best of the best.
Its an all or nothing and im choosing all.
But im also willing to do nothing .
I dont give a flying fock what needs to be done to get the job done . I
dont care how beat up I get in the accomplishment.
Joke or not, illusion or reality. Fun and games or not , I know what I
know and its far more than it was just a few weeks ago.
But thats why we're all here right?
Change for the better . It happens for all of us we are all life but with
different bodies.
Much of what on said on the list in the past is not true today. But
considering the goals we have , it makes sence that we'll trip up , crash
and continue on . Its all we can do is the best we can do.
Pick your self up. Dust yourself off and keep at it.
There's nothing more to gain and everything to lose.
Its not about case gain . Its about case lost.
Vanishment is a good thing. This universe is full of things that are
better off vanished. Even if it means vanishing the good with it.
Life is good . Thats " the 1 " thing that'll never vanish.
Thats my logic.
Slim
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