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Nice cognition. Me I like to just observe the mind in a blank state and watch 
it react and stuff. Sometimes I think observance is just as powerful as trom. 
But not as technical. I like to observe my thoughts and not act on their 
messages. Really cool to do, but not everyone can do it!

See you later friend!

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> On Feb 17, 2014, at 9:33 AM, "David M. Pelly" <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Cory,
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> You spurred a thought for me.
> 
> If it is true that "Must be Known"  and "Must know"  are our primary 
> postulates, 
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> 
> via logic and reason that means that we come as a blank slate. 
> 
> 
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> It means that we do not know anything to start with.  
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> We only have and come  with "potential", and probably unlimited potential.
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> And that also  means we have a beginning.
> 
> We have not always been.
> 
> David
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> 
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> From: [email protected]
> Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 07:57:39 -0700
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [TROM1] source of life
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> All good questions. As to the question of "why am I here?", the first thing 
> that comes to the mind is, "I don't know". So I'm assuming that's the reason 
> of being here, "to not know", and have a game. What do you think? Withdrawing 
> from a game Sounds a simple as not participating, but then there are the 
> losses of havingness, things like money to survive. If I stopped working I 
> would starve, or have no choice but to love off the natural system of the 
> good chain and become a hunter. That's really the only fair system. 
> Ecosystems are usually equal systems. But society is not for sure. Oil is the 
> king of the world today. But well that may be just the mind talking uses less 
> info. It seems whithdrawing self from the war game is an indication of 
> resistance. And resistance is something that implies a dislike. So instead of 
> withdrawing I've resorted to secondary games like the game, "how to remove 
> physical pain" instead of withdrawing from the work game Or war game all 
> together. So is the cute for games, just more games? Society works on this 
> principle, they created an unfair game of you work for me I make more, and it 
> made new games to fix old games. We could say doctors of today are so 
> abundant to fix the fuck ups or diseases that society had created. Not even a 
> cow gets as many diseases as humans do, at least that's what my mind 
> believes. But the cow knows it's a cow, the human... He knows he's... Sent 
> from my iPhone > On Feb 17, 2014, at 7:11 AM, ale wrote: > > ************* > 
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> ************ > >> Il giorno 17/feb/14, alle ore 12:51, 
> [email protected] ha scritto: >> >> Hi Cory >> >> "Opposing goals 
> keep things in existence and generates mass while complementary goals bring 
> about the vanishment of mass." >> >> Maybe I have a confusion but how do you 
> complement the goal of war? By having war? How do you complement working for 
> little money and essentially being a modern slave? By working? Taxes? How do 
> we complement anything that is undesirable to self, when really someone is 
> gaining unfairly at the expense of others? See where I'm going? " > > > If we 
> assume that the source of life is " all possibilities " , how can life like 
> something good or something bad ? It can't because good or bad are just two 
> of the infinite possibilities it can create. > Better question would be : > " 
> How do I withdraw myself from the game of war , or from the game of being 
> poor ?" > Maybe we have to awake more of our abilities.We are still sleeping 
> as powerful spiritual beings. > Or maybe this game in this planet is just for 
> the experience of it , the experience of the compulsive game. > Then all we 
> have to do is to withdraw from this playground and search for another one, 
> where compulsive games are not existing in the first place. > I am still 
> finding an answer to the questions : > 1) why am I here ? > 2) what is the 
> purpose of playing this game ? > alessandro. > 
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> All good questions. As to the question of "why am I here?", the first thing 
> that comes to the mind is, "I don't know". So I'm assuming that's the reason 
> of being here, "to not know", and have a game. What do you think?
> 
> Withdrawing from a game
> Sounds a simple as not participating, but then there are the losses of 
> havingness, things like money to survive. If I stopped working I would 
> starve, or have no choice but to love off the natural system of the good 
> chain and become a hunter. That's really the only fair system. Ecosystems are 
> usually equal systems. But society is not for sure. Oil is the king of the 
> world today. But well that may be just the mind talking uses less info.
> 
> It seems whithdrawing self from the war game is an indication of resistance. 
> And resistance is something that implies a dislike. So instead of withdrawing 
> I've resorted to secondary games like the game, "how to remove physical pain" 
> instead of withdrawing from the work game
> Or war game all together. So is the cute for games, just more games? Society 
> works on this principle, they created an unfair game of you work for me I 
> make more, and it made new games to fix old games. We could say doctors of 
> today are so abundant to fix the fuck ups or diseases that society had 
> created. Not even a cow gets as many diseases as humans do, at least that's 
> what my mind believes. But the cow knows it's a cow, the human... He knows 
> he's... 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Feb 17, 2014, at 7:11 AM, ale <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Il giorno 17/feb/14, alle ore 12:51, [email protected] ha scritto:
> 
> Hi Cory
> 
> "Opposing goals keep things in existence and generates mass while 
> complementary goals bring about the vanishment of mass."
> 
> Maybe I have a confusion but how do you complement the goal of war? By having 
> war? How do you complement working for little money and essentially being a 
> modern slave? By working? Taxes? How do we complement anything that is 
> undesirable to self, when really someone is gaining unfairly at the expense 
> of others? See where I'm going? "
> 
> 
> If we assume that the source of  life is  " all possibilities " , how can 
> life like something good or something bad ? It can't because good or bad are 
> just two of the infinite possibilities it can create.
> Better question would be :
> " How do I withdraw myself from the game of war , or from the game of being 
> poor ?"
> Maybe we have to awake more of our abilities.We are still sleeping as 
> powerful spiritual beings.
> Or maybe this game in this planet is just for the experience of it , the 
> experience of the compulsive game.
> Then all we have to do is to withdraw from this playground and search for 
> another one, where compulsive games are not existing in the first place.
> I am still finding an answer to the questions :
> 1) why am I here ?
> 2) what is the purpose of playing this game ?
> alessandro.
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