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Hello, Pete,
If one looks at the most basic incident possible, a type of first separation to create persistency of the creation, the being wanted "To Know" better his creation, and all aspects of the goal set were put in place, and at this time I feel the first -- if there was a first -- goal was "To Know". He had to create something and do a reflexive not-know/not-be-known My current understanding is that the prime being/viewpoint was less interested in being known by its creation as it was in knowing its creation better. I would not swear to this on a stack of Bibles and is only a subjective viewing with hopefully some logic. It seems to me what you are talking about is the first being that experienced or had the consideration of being the effect. I see a "wall" between these two -- a wall which gets broken down using practices in Trom. Based on what I've seen so far I'm sticking with "To Know" as the general descriptor. colleen colleen
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