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Hi Colleen As far as the order in which the postulates occur Dennis laid them out. Leg 1 is to be known and leg 3 is to know. Dennis even states things must be created before they can be "known".
Sure it is possible to live on a desert island but how many people want to do that? The more common situation is people want to live in a community where they can know and be known. Which would you prefer a) desert island or b) community. If you choose b) then you put a higher importance on being known and you agree with me that the basic postulate should be named after the leg 1 postulate "to be known" Sincerely Pete Sent from my iPad > On Aug 15, 2014, at 12:39 PM, "Colleen K. Peltomaa" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > ************* > The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] > ************ > Hello, Pete, > > Thank you for further explaining your viewpoint about the importance of to be > known. > > For myself, it still brings up the question of what was the postulate before > we created "not-selfs"? > I refer to the surprise game before we created that other terminal. I > wanted to know a surprise, right? > I don't see myself necessarily wanting that object of surprise to know me. > To be known seems more reflexive at that stage. > At that stage, who is it I am really knowing and being known by? So, even > in the absence of others, to know and to be known seem intertwined. I can't > see the emphasis of must be known coming before must know, although the > phrase, "know thyself" comes to mind. > > Perhaps a logic formula? > > If you go all the way back to you forming that postulate set, what problem > were you trying to solve, if I may ask that question. > What was going on with you before you formed that postulate matrix? This > question may not be valid and may be misleading. > > colleen > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Trom mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom
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