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Today's Topics:
1. CDEI scale (Pete Mclaughlin)
2. Tone scale: Re: R: Ken Ogger's Cosmic History (Ant Phillips)
3. R: CDEI scale ([email protected])
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Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2014 14:46:22 -0700
From: Pete Mclaughlin <[email protected]>
To: TROM <[email protected]>
Subject: [TROM1] CDEI scale
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Here are a couple of interesting articles from the Ghost Danse
website.
http://www.censorthis.com/ouran/ghosthome.html
The author might as well be describing TROM.
Keep on TROMing
Pete
GOALS AND THE CDEI SCALE
Case consists of charged polarities. ANY charged polarity. It can be
love/hate, can/can't, have/not-have, know/not-know, male/female,
anything which has been divided that gets charged up.
A polarity becomes charged when one end of it is pursued as a goal.
The action of pursuing one end of a polarity involves denying the
other end as undesired, unknowable, resisted, unbeable, etc.
[Note the dichotomy is not a game. It just splits an effect into two
pieces and the being decides one is preferred over the other-pete]
At a very high level, a person is creating BOTH ends of any
polarity. By pursuing only one end, the person is denying their own
creation. This act of putting something there and then trying to
make it not exist is the real cause of the charge. It is charged
because the person is "NOT-WHOLE" on that subject.
Any polarity of which a person is pursuing one end as a goal
operates on the scale of goal pursuit, which is the basic CDEI scale
(this is a shortened version of the scale):
CURIOUS
DESIRE
ENFORCE
INHIBIT
NO
REJECTED
This is the decay scale of any goal. Let me repeat that, because I
do not recall it ever been said by LRH: THE CDEI SCALE IS THE DECAY
SCALE FOR GOALS. Curiosity and desire bind the person to the goal,
which Buddha warned against, and which leads to what Edmund Meadows
calls "white mass". The remainder of the CDEI scale creates "black
mass" in the mind. The difference between white and black is simply
whether it is being obliterated from sight or not. If it is
resisted, it goes black in the mind (then invisible).
Ouran
[white and black mass which Dennis says indicates life goals and non
life goals- Pete ]
NEW CDEI SCALE BUTTON FOR GOALS PROCESSING
A few weeks ago I had the opportunity to watch a friend do a
demonstration session using Zivorad Slavinski's Aspectika process.
There was quite a difference between reading the process on paper
and watching it being run on a processee. For one thing I could SEE
what was happening in front of me.
Aspectika is goals processing. It runs goals in chains by locating
the higher goal which is behind the one being examined, then taking
up that higher one, then looking for the one higher than it. This is
quite a departure from the Scn line plot. A line plot is horizontal
in level, and locating goals in prior times never breaks out of the
circle. Aspectika on the other hand looks for higher goals, working
upward into absolutes and finally into static itself.
One of my personal discoveries is that the CDEI scale is simply the
decay scale of a goal, any goal. I do not recall seeing that fact
written anywhere, but if it is, fine. Anyone who might have spotted
that first, congratulations! :)
The CDEI scale phenomena is most likely what Buddha was talking
about when he spoke of "thirst" and "desire" being a major element
of case. Goals decay down this scale until the goal failure is
intolerable, at which point the person takes a new goal. This taking
on a new goal can be done both horizontally as seen in a line plot,
and/or it can be done vertically as witnessed in Aspectika processing.
To refresh any memories, and for reference, here is the expanded
CDEI scale as given by Geoffrey Filbert:
not know
know
unknown
wonder
curious
desired
enforced
inhibited
no
refused
false
denied
absurd
rationalized
abusive
horrible
compressed
conjured
recriminatory
Watching the Aspectika session it became very obvious to me that a
new, final button would have to be added to the CDEI scale. That
final button might not always come after "recriminatory", it might
appear higher up. For example, "conjured" could well be the last
hallucinatory creation in the very act of beginning a new cycle. The
final button appears on the scale at the point where the goal
failure is intolerable to the person. The final button of the CDEI
scale is:
SUBSTITUTE
Substitute ends the current goal by replacing it with a new goal.
This button is not only at the bottom of the CDEI scale, it is also
at the top above "not know" when working backwards along a chain of
goals, or along a single goal working back in time. When a new goal
is substituted for the failed old one, the new goal then decays
normally from the top at "not know" through "know", "unknown",
"curious", etc.
[with substitute added the CDEI scale is directly applicable to TROM
and Ouran is correct that it is a scale of the failure of a
postulate -Pete]
When using this new button in Scn style auditing be wary of simply
working it in an attempt to get charge off it. It is more than a
charged button; it is the link to a higher or previous goal. So be
prepared to go earlier and/or higher when you use it.
A last caution about processing goals: the Scn habit of running
goals with terminals, and other physical universe existences
described by nouns, is a mistake. Doing so grounds the charge of the
associated GPM(s) directly into the thetan, and through the thetan
into the body. Goals do not need to be run in this dangerous manner
any longer. I won't list the names of casualties here.
[definately TROM level 5. Put up postulate versus postulate and
timebreaking the effects that turn up in response. -Pete]
Ouran
back to index
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Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2014 07:23:58 +0200
From: Ant Phillips <[email protected]>
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Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2014 10:54:43 +0200 (CEST)
From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
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Subject: [TROM1] R: CDEI scale
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[Dennis says that emotion is more related to separation in space
with pain
occurring in too close contact followed by sexual sensation at
close distance
followed by apathy, grief, fear, anger, antagonism, boredom,
enthusiasm as
distance increases. And moving on to esthetics or beauty. Pete]
Hi Pete and Ant. I know very well
Trom in that you do not use a meter, and
tone scale. From this paragraph seems
mentioned by Dennis. I just wanted to
know, if the tone of Conservatism, is
been omitted from Dennis. Or is it a
oversight, or an error of Pete. where
Dennis talks about it? Curiosity.
Thank you, Nic.
----Messaggio originale----
Da: [email protected]
Data: 6-set-2014 23.46
A: "TROM"<[email protected]>
Ogg: [TROM1] CDEI scale
Here are a couple of interesting articles from the Ghost Danse
website.http://www.censorthis.com/ouran/ghosthome.htmlThe author
might as well be describing TROM.
Keep on TROMingPete
GOALS AND THE CDEI SCALE
Case consists of charged polarities. ANY charged polarity. It can be
love/hate, can/can't, have/not-have, know/not-know, male/female,
anything which has been divided that gets charged up.
A polarity becomes charged when one end of it is pursued as a goal.
The action of pursuing one end of a polarity involves denying the
other end as undesired, unknowable, resisted, unbeable, etc.
[Note the dichotomy is not a game. It just splits an effect into two
pieces and the being decides one is preferred over the other-pete]
At a very high level, a person is creating BOTH ends of any
polarity. By pursuing only one end, the person is denying their own
creation. This act of putting something there and then trying to
make it not exist is the real cause of the charge. It is charged
because the person is "NOT-WHOLE" on that subject.
Any polarity of which a person is pursuing one end as a goal
operates on the scale of goal pursuit, which is the basic CDEI scale
(this is a shortened version of the scale):
CURIOUS
DESIRE
ENFORCE
INHIBIT
NO
REJECTED
This is the decay scale of any goal. Let me repeat that, because I
do not recall it ever been said by LRH: THE CDEI SCALE IS THE DECAY
SCALE FOR GOALS. Curiosity and desire bind the person to the goal,
which Buddha warned against, and which leads to what Edmund Meadows
calls "white mass". The remainder of the CDEI scale creates "black
mass" in the mind. The difference between white and black is simply
whether it is being obliterated from sight or not. If it is
resisted, it goes black in the mind (then invisible).
Ouran[white and black mass which Dennis says indicates life goals
and non life goals- Pete ]NEW CDEI SCALE BUTTON FOR GOALS PROCESSING
A few weeks ago I had the opportunity to watch a friend do a
demonstration session using Zivorad Slavinski's Aspectika process.
There was quite a difference between reading the process on paper
and watching it being run on a processee. For one thing I could SEE
what was happening in front of me.
Aspectika is goals processing. It runs goals in chains by locating
the higher goal which is behind the one being examined, then taking
up that higher one, then looking for the one higher than it. This is
quite a departure from the Scn line plot. A line plot is horizontal
in level, and locating goals in prior times never breaks out of the
circle. Aspectika on the other hand looks for higher goals, working
upward into absolutes and finally into static itself.
One of my personal discoveries is that the CDEI scale is simply the
decay scale of a goal, any goal. I do not recall seeing that fact
written anywhere, but if it is, fine. Anyone who might have spotted
that first, congratulations! :)
The CDEI scale phenomena is most likely what Buddha was talking
about when he spoke of "thirst" and "desire" being a major element
of case. Goals decay down this scale until the goal failure is
intolerable, at which point the person takes a new goal. This taking
on a new goal can be done both horizontally as seen in a line plot,
and/or it can be done vertically as witnessed in Aspectika processing.
To refresh any memories, and for reference, here is the expanded
CDEI scale as given by Geoffrey Filbert:
not know
know
unknown
wonder
curious
desired
enforced
inhibited
no
refused
false
denied
absurd
rationalized
abusive
horrible
compressed
conjured
recriminatory
Watching the Aspectika session it became very obvious to me that a
new, final button would have to be added to the CDEI scale. That
final button might not always come after "recriminatory", it might
appear higher up. For example, "conjured" could well be the last
hallucinatory creation in the very act of beginning a new cycle. The
final button appears on the scale at the point where the goal
failure is intolerable to the person. The final button of the CDEI
scale is:
SUBSTITUTE
Substitute ends the current goal by replacing it with a new goal.
This button is not only at the bottom of the CDEI scale, it is also
at the top above "not know" when working backwards along a chain of
goals, or along a single goal working back in time. When a new goal
is substituted for the failed old one, the new goal then decays
normally from the top at "not know" through "know", "unknown",
"curious", etc.
[with substitute added the CDEI scale is directly applicable to TROM
and Ouran is correct that it is a scale of the failure of a
postulate -Pete]
When using this new button in Scn style auditing be wary of simply
working it in an attempt to get charge off it. It is more than a
charged button; it is the link to a higher or previous goal. So be
prepared to go earlier and/or higher when you use it.
A last caution about processing goals: the Scn habit of running
goals with terminals, and other physical universe existences
described by nouns, is a mistake. Doing so grounds the charge of the
associated GPM(s) directly into the thetan, and through the thetan
into the body. Goals do not need to be run in this dangerous manner
any longer. I won't list the names of casualties here.
[definately TROM level 5. Put up postulate versus postulate and
timebreaking the effects that turn up in response. -Pete]
Ouranback to indexSent from my iPad
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