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Cool replay. Ive been exterior to the body once. It was unintentional and during a time of great stress, i basically gave up in life.
For me there was no way of controlling the body from outside. I could only feel peace, or extreme serenity. This has been most of my study and research lately. My goal has been how to be exterior at will. I probably wont stop until "l" die. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 12, 2016, at 4:03 PM, The Resolution of Mind list > <[email protected]> wrote: > > ************* > The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] > ************ > > Sent Saturday 13th of February 2016 by [email protected] (Antony > Phillips) > > Note that this is a resend of a message sent some years ago, and some data > (like addresses) is liable to be inaccurate. > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > - - - - - - - - > > > > > Subject: TROM Replay B30 > Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 12:05:39 +0200 > From: Antony Phillips <[email protected]> > Organization: International Viewpoints > To: [email protected] > > > Dear Trommers, > > This replay B30 ending 2nd May 1996 is the last I have filed in my Fido > system. I think I only sent from my FIDO archives in the first series > of replays (this series, prefaced B is a repeat of approximately the > same material). > > Next week, replay B31 will be a mailing I sent out Fri, 28 Mar 1997 > 06:46:49 -0800 and is an article on TROM by Frank Gordon. (In my systemn > it is filed in Netscape - a folder with 412 messages in it.) > > B32 Thu, 3 Apr 1997 13:03:33 +1000 will be Judith Andersen, STEPS FOR > RUNNING TROM > > There is thus a gap of over a year when the list was silent (or I was > deaf :-) ) > > On July 2 the first series of Replay start, and I will probably, under > the "B" prefix, resend the material _which was _not_ replays. > > All the best, > > Ant > > > -- > Ant Antony A Phillips > [email protected] > tlf: (+45) 45 88 88 69 > Box 78 > DK - 2800 Lyngby > Editor, International Viewpoints (= IVy). See Home Page: > http://home8.inet.tele.dk/ivy/ > > > Ä TROM (2:235/159.10) ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ > TROM-L Ä > Msg : 280 of 289 Rcv Pvt K/s > > From : Bill Maier <[email protected]> Mon 29 Apr 96 > 16:29 > To : [email protected] Mon 29 Apr 96 > 20:19 > Subj : Re: Body distortions. > > ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ > ÄÄÄÄ > P id PAA04178 for <[email protected]>; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 15:32:34 +0200 > At 12:10 PM 4/29/96 EST, you wrote: > > > >To fellow trommers, > > > >Having partaken in clearing exercises outside of the CO$ I am very intrigued > >by the phenomena of expansion of space in relation to ones body and > >location. Briefly, a common sensation is of great distance between ones > >head and ones hands. It is as if my arms are 10 feet long. Other > >sensations are of enormous hands while holding the cans. > > > >Having no background in the Church I am just enquiring as to the normality > >of this sensation and is this a possible precursor to going exterior. > > > >All replies would be valuable. > > > >Regards, > >John > > I have had similar experiences, and yes, in my case this was a precursor to > exteriorization. This phenomenon made more sense to me when I realized I must > be viewing these body parts from an exterior viewpoint, even though I was not > completely exterior. > > My original conception (misconception, actually) of exteriorization was that I > would leave the body with perceptics exactly like those experienced when in > the > body. This is not the way things are. My perceptics and certainty of being > exterior have gradually increased with practice. > > Bill > > > --- > > Ä TROM (2:235/159.10) ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ > TROM-L Ä > Msg : 281 of 289 Rcv Pvt K/s > > From : Bill Maier <[email protected]> Tue 30 Apr 96 > 00:03 > To : [email protected] Tue 30 Apr 96 > 06:55 > Subj : Re: Anyone out there actually auditing TROM? > > ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ > ÄÄÄÄ > r <[email protected]>; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 23:11:17 +0200 > At 07:54 AM 4/29/96 -0500, you wrote: > >I got the pack a few weeks ago but have not yet begun. Is anyone on > >this list currently auditing using TROM? > > > >Any advice? > >-- > >Gary F. York > >417-881-7679 > >2448 E. Cambridge > >Springfield, MO 65804 > > I auditing TROM through Level 4 about a year ago. It's a good set of > processes, > but not the be-all end-all that Dennis Stephens claimed. > > Be sure to run lots of RI! > > Bill > > > --- > > Ä TROM (2:235/159.10) ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ > TROM-L Ä > Msg : 282 of 289 Rcv Pvt K/s > > From : Antony Phillips <[email protected]> Mon 29 Apr 96 > 21:56 > To : [email protected] Tue 30 Apr 96 > 06:55 > Subj : Body distortions. > > ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ > ÄÄÄÄ > [email protected]>; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 00:49:00 +0200 > Answering a msg of <Monday April 29 1996>, from Bill Maier to Antony Phillips: > (on TROM-L) > > The idea of exterior viewpoints is well worth thinking over. My first (main) > experience in the direction of exteriorisation was hearing my (bodies) voice > about a foot in front of and below me. Obviously I had an exterior 'hear'point > above and behind my bodies head. > > > Greetings, > Ant Antony A Phillips > > Internet address: [email protected] tlf: (+45) 45 88 88 69 > Box 78 > DK - 2800 Lyngby > > Editor, International Viewpoints (= IVy) see Home Page: > http://www.sn.no/~trone/IVy.html > > --- GoldED 2.50+ - > -- > > --- > > > Ä TROM (2:235/159.10) ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ > TROM-L Ä > Msg : 284 of 289 Rcv Pvt K/s > > From : Bill Maier <[email protected]> Thu 02 May 96 > 02:30 > To : [email protected] Thu 02 May 96 > 06:58 > Subj : Re: Remote Viewpoints > > ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ > ÄÄÄÄ > <[email protected]>; Thu, 2 May 1996 01:35:17 +0200 > At 02:02 PM 5/1/96 +0200, you wrote: > > > >There was a thread a moment ago concerned with exterior viewpoints. > > > >I have realised that the correct scientology term (from the 50s any way - and > >it is in the Scientology Tech Dictionary) was remote viewpoint. > > > >There is a subtle difference. A being can have a (or many) remote viewpoints > >regardless of whether he is exterior (to a body) or not. Taking into view the > >early scientology axioms he could occupy (consider himself at) more than one > >point, as well as having one or more remote viewpoints. > > > >Its all possible. But if you don't know any one else who is playing that sort > >of game, would it be fun? But time breaking, with that in mind, would > probably > >help achieve those states. > > > >Greetings, > > Ant Antony A Phillips > > Thank you for this post, Ant. It clarified my thinking in this area. > > I seem to be capable of two distinct types of exteriorization, 1) I take up > a remote viewpoint without feeling that I am completely exterior, and 2) > being fully exterior to the body. The difference is rather subtle, and is > connected to the degree of certainty of being exterior. External viewpoints > are rather easy for me to assume, full exteriorization is more difficult. > > Bill > > > --- > > Ä TROM (2:235/159.10) ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ > TROM-L Ä > Msg : 285 of 289 Rcv Pvt K/s > > From : Ray Harman <[email protected]> Tue 30 Apr 96 > 01:32 > To : [email protected] Thu 02 May 96 > 20:35 > Subj : exteriorisation > > ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ > ÄÄÄÄ > 2) with ESMTP id LAA15579 for <[email protected]>; Thu, 2 May 1996 11:30:06 > +0200 > Dear Trommers, > > 1. Gary, beware of not beginning!! > > 2. My experience of exteriorisation is that it can be small and > subtle, or complete and vivid and unquestionable, or shades of grey! > > I have puzzled over some stuck picture, and the auditor said, Were > you exterior at that time? Ah! Yes, that reads, and the picture was > that I was just outside but did not realise it. One can mock up the > picture of what the scene would be when viewed from the ceiling and > then say well one was to some extent at least, exterior and assuming > the viewpoint of being at the ceiling... but that is an excuse for > not being exterior I reckon. Then, one can be exterior and really > know it, being totally outside of the body and yet controlling it > from a distance, or again, as a child, having fallen when climbing, > shot twenty feet in the air, seen the body lying still, and thinking > Well I had better get back in that body and make it cry. I did, but > the act of interiorising is a blank, then it was as if I woke up and > found myself on the ground, crying. > > Regards, > > Ray. > > --- > > Ä TROM (2:235/159.10) ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ > TROM-L Ä > Msg : 286 of 289 Rcv Pvt K/s > > From : Flemming Funch <[email protected]> Thu 02 May 96 > 08:40 > To : [email protected] Thu 02 May 96 > 20:35 > Subj : Re: Remote Viewpoints > > ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ > ÄÄÄÄ > 5637 for <[email protected]>; Thu, 2 May 1996 13:44:32 +0200 > At 6:30 PM 5/1/96, Bill Maier wrote: > >Thank you for this post, Ant. It clarified my thinking in this area. > > > >I seem to be capable of two distinct types of exteriorization, 1) I take up > >a remote viewpoint without feeling that I am completely exterior, and 2) > >being fully exterior to the body. The difference is rather subtle, and is > >connected to the degree of certainty of being exterior. External viewpoints > >are rather easy for me to assume, full exteriorization is more difficult. > > The way I see it is simply that a being can assume viewpoints. The being > isn't a viewpoint, but can assume any one, or many at the same time. > > One might put more or less attention on the different viewpoints. > Exteriorization, the way I see it, would simply be that one puts more > attention on one or more viewpoints outside the body than on the ones > inside the body. It is a gradient scale, although there might be phenomena > of a sudden shift. > > The concept of a Thetan actually introduced some hang-ups for many people, > in that most people would understand it as being one viewpoint (supposedly > the real ME) that's stuck inside the body, but which might get out. I think > that is unnecessarily limiting, and is in itself the cause of most of the > difficulty in exteriorizing and the cause of int/ext phenomena. > > Int/ext phenomena happen when the person thinks he's one viewpoint and he > suddenly finds himself having several viewpoints (at least one inside the > body and one outside), and he gets confused and wavers in trying to decide > which one is the RIGHT one. The phenomena go away when he becomes familiar > with having both of them at the same time and stops trying to choose > between them. > > Timebreaking is incidentally helpful in that, in that it re-familiarizes > the person with having several viewpoints at the same time. > > - Flemming > > > o o > / \------------------ Flemming A. Funch ------------------/ \ > / * \ World Transformation/New Civilization/Whole Systems / * \ > / * * \ [email protected] / * * \ > o-------o------- http://www.newciv.org/worldtrans/ -------o-------o > -- > Ant Antony A Phillips > [email protected] > tlf: (+45) 45 88 88 69 > Box 78 > DK - 2800 Lyngby > Editor, International Viewpoints (= IVy). See Home Page: > http://home8.inet.tele.dk/ivy/ > Administrator: trom-l, selfclearing-l, superscio-l, IVy lists > _______________________________________________ > TROM mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom
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