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Thanks for the responses Coleen and Robin!
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Case Gain since I started Trom (The Resolution of Mind list) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2016 07:57:23 -0500 > From: The Resolution of Mind list <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [TROM1] RE MARCUS' Question about RI > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > GREAT!!! write-up, Robin! > > colleen > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.newciv.org/pipermail/trom/attachments/20160227/e3a9fc23/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2016 04:05:15 -0500 > From: The Resolution of Mind list <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [TROM1] Case Gain since I started Trom > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > At my beginning, when I experienced I could no longer get into the creator > viewpoint that I once held I began a games condition with myself and what > fast became my "not-self" - the creator of this universe. So I have spent a > whole track of time playing a lose/lose game, and TROM has been a big > turnaround for me. > > I first did a quick run through the CCH's which never hurts even though > change was occurring with RI. > > Level Two helped me null some attachments and aversions to aesthetics and, > through trial and error, eventually gave me confidence that I could not > fail in timebreaking. > > In an attempt to put some structure into Level Three and more quickly > handle my case re game strategies I decided to gradiently take up incidents > involving my parents. My auditor stepped in and helped me get through this > very quickly, laser-like, using Trom principles as a separate therapy, and > I no longer have any fixed attention on my parents, and my auditor says I > am becoming more responsible. Letting go of game strategies resolves > stupidities, and I do see signs of me smartening up. > > Indeed I find I am becoming more concerned about ethics entanglements than > about aesthetic entanglements. I'm also looking after the body's needs and > doing some de-toxing. > > IMPORTANT NOTE: I'm not advertising the services of my auditor and he is > not able to take on any clients right now due to we live in a house that > was built in the 1800's and it needs a lot of work and he is otherwise > engaged with his own solo-auditing. My auditing with him is sporadic but > welcome when it does occur. I'm taking on my own case - DIY. Taking > reasonable and intelligent responsibility for one's own case builds > character and courage, and I am greatly encouraged by the feedback on this > list. > > I realize case resolution is likened to an upward spiral and takes one > through harmonic levels, and I do not count any case gain as absolute until > the mind is completely gone. I am now DIY working to expose game strategies > concerning other individuals from the past, timebreaking incidents with > them, and falling back to Level Two when a scene is stuck. A lot of > foot-dragging too which I sorely would like to resolve... as in, "when did > that first start with you?". > > RI has been rehabilitative for me, and my ability to create without the use > of a cad-cam program (although they are nice) has lately amazed me. I see a > lot of potential there. RI also keeps my mind from overly reacting to a > sudden loss of long held and habituated importances, especially game > strategies. > > Still I have ethical issues (i.e., forcing and preventing) with regards to > the creation and implementation of the "To Know" matrix of postulates, from > the viewpoint of one separated from the creator being, still stuck at the > effect of a self-imposed postulate set, as in "What was I thinking!?!". I'm > certain this gets resolved at the pair of Levels Four and Five, and then I > will know after that if there is more or higher case to resolve. > > I'm not trying to build a cult around Trom or Dennis, although I am very > very grateful to him and this period of grace. I am aware of other workable > timebreaking techs and tools, but not of anything comparable to Level Five. > I simply prefer to give Dennis' approach a good run towards level five... > it indicates to me. > > Any one of us can build on his shoulders if that indicates and at least do > our own hat write-up before we also do our change up to playing better > games or no games at will. I think most of us can agree that Trom as it is > currently written could be a stop for some other truth seekers without a > scientology background. > > The only thing I have found that comes close to Level Five intent is in a > book called, "Polar Dynamics" by Max Sandor and Ed Dawson. I prefer Level > Five approach for its simplicity before I would choose to tackle Polar > Dynamics. > > I do trust that every being on their own volition eventually starts asking > the right questions and finds their way back "home". For myself, the right > question that set this all in motion and got me involved with scientology > was, "What is the mind?", and secondly, "How can we resolve it?". However, > I am no longer interested in playing any civilization games, although I do > see I am being a more civil and fair human in my interactions. > > So, to sum up what I wrote, I personally attest there is case gain to be > made using the data and tech of TROM. > > colleen > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.newciv.org/pipermail/trom/attachments/20160228/bf81dbe6/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > TROM mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom > > > End of TROM Digest, Vol 136, Issue 19 > ************************************* >
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