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Thanks for your lovely insights Colleen. I always look forward to reading your posts, indeed any post regarding TROM. I think trommers are involved with their solo auditing and living their lives and perhaps don't all have much to say, if anything at all.
I'm busy with level 5 at the moment. Afew years ago I went to 4 and bailed after a while then did not trom at all until last year again when I determined to do everything from scratch. level 5 is a slow affair in that I am not rushing anything, just working my way through the chart of postulates until I get bored with a level or nothing else shows up for timebreaking. It would be hard to say what the changes are that I have noticed in that I consider us as a complex ecosystem constantly in flux adapting integrating etc. Thus wins are integarted and becomes part of the new structure or perhaps older game structures fall away revealing more and more of the essential self which then feels like a natural part of beingness and it becomes harder to relate to older game states. What I have noticed that sometimes even under extreme provocation I can be very lucid and calm. Or if something disturbed me momentarily I quickly bounce back to a clamer/serener state. I make no claims about anything other than my calmer state and my focus and ability to increasingly make my postulates stick. As with Colleen I am more aware of ethics considerations. That to my mind is the one thing that can degrade a spiritual being rapidly, crashing your ethics. So my state of being is also connected to keeping my ethics in while pursuing my solo path on level 5. I have not yet done any pairs in the annexures lnked to Trom. I am doing the basic level 5 and will see if there are other buttons of 'importance' to clean up if the main 'to know' postulate chart has not cleaned it up. So all in all a steady progression. I do take breaks and follow Denni advice about living too. Some sessions are longer some shorter. Not very many trommers from what I can gather have written up their wins...these are a few of mine and hopefully they will provide some encouragement to those on this path. Best Llewellin On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 2:00 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Send TROM mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of TROM digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. RE MARCUS' Question about RI (The Resolution of Mind list) > 2. Case Gain since I started Trom (The Resolution of Mind list) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2016 07:57:23 -0500 > From: The Resolution of Mind list <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [TROM1] RE MARCUS' Question about RI > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > GREAT!!! write-up, Robin! > > colleen > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.newciv.org/pipermail/trom/attachments/20160227/e3a9fc23/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2016 04:05:15 -0500 > From: The Resolution of Mind list <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [TROM1] Case Gain since I started Trom > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > At my beginning, when I experienced I could no longer get into the creator > viewpoint that I once held I began a games condition with myself and what > fast became my "not-self" - the creator of this universe. So I have spent a > whole track of time playing a lose/lose game, and TROM has been a big > turnaround for me. > > I first did a quick run through the CCH's which never hurts even though > change was occurring with RI. > > Level Two helped me null some attachments and aversions to aesthetics and, > through trial and error, eventually gave me confidence that I could not > fail in timebreaking. > > In an attempt to put some structure into Level Three and more quickly > handle my case re game strategies I decided to gradiently take up incidents > involving my parents. My auditor stepped in and helped me get through this > very quickly, laser-like, using Trom principles as a separate therapy, and > I no longer have any fixed attention on my parents, and my auditor says I > am becoming more responsible. Letting go of game strategies resolves > stupidities, and I do see signs of me smartening up. > > Indeed I find I am becoming more concerned about ethics entanglements than > about aesthetic entanglements. I'm also looking after the body's needs and > doing some de-toxing. > > IMPORTANT NOTE: I'm not advertising the services of my auditor and he is > not able to take on any clients right now due to we live in a house that > was built in the 1800's and it needs a lot of work and he is otherwise > engaged with his own solo-auditing. My auditing with him is sporadic but > welcome when it does occur. I'm taking on my own case - DIY. Taking > reasonable and intelligent responsibility for one's own case builds > character and courage, and I am greatly encouraged by the feedback on this > list. > > I realize case resolution is likened to an upward spiral and takes one > through harmonic levels, and I do not count any case gain as absolute until > the mind is completely gone. I am now DIY working to expose game strategies > concerning other individuals from the past, timebreaking incidents with > them, and falling back to Level Two when a scene is stuck. A lot of > foot-dragging too which I sorely would like to resolve... as in, "when did > that first start with you?". > > RI has been rehabilitative for me, and my ability to create without the use > of a cad-cam program (although they are nice) has lately amazed me. I see a > lot of potential there. RI also keeps my mind from overly reacting to a > sudden loss of long held and habituated importances, especially game > strategies. > > Still I have ethical issues (i.e., forcing and preventing) with regards to > the creation and implementation of the "To Know" matrix of postulates, from > the viewpoint of one separated from the creator being, still stuck at the > effect of a self-imposed postulate set, as in "What was I thinking!?!". I'm > certain this gets resolved at the pair of Levels Four and Five, and then I > will know after that if there is more or higher case to resolve. > > I'm not trying to build a cult around Trom or Dennis, although I am very > very grateful to him and this period of grace. I am aware of other workable > timebreaking techs and tools, but not of anything comparable to Level Five. > I simply prefer to give Dennis' approach a good run towards level five... > it indicates to me. > > Any one of us can build on his shoulders if that indicates and at least do > our own hat write-up before we also do our change up to playing better > games or no games at will. I think most of us can agree that Trom as it is > currently written could be a stop for some other truth seekers without a > scientology background. > > The only thing I have found that comes close to Level Five intent is in a > book called, "Polar Dynamics" by Max Sandor and Ed Dawson. I prefer Level > Five approach for its simplicity before I would choose to tackle Polar > Dynamics. > > I do trust that every being on their own volition eventually starts asking > the right questions and finds their way back "home". For myself, the right > question that set this all in motion and got me involved with scientology > was, "What is the mind?", and secondly, "How can we resolve it?". However, > I am no longer interested in playing any civilization games, although I do > see I am being a more civil and fair human in my interactions. > > So, to sum up what I wrote, I personally attest there is case gain to be > made using the data and tech of TROM. > > colleen > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.newciv.org/pipermail/trom/attachments/20160228/bf81dbe6/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > TROM mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom > > > End of TROM Digest, Vol 136, Issue 19 > ************************************* >
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