************* The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] ************ Hi Robin Mahatma Ghandi's non violent revolution is the way to go. Help your family and neighbors, don't use the fiat money if you can help it and grow your own food. An excellent way to go.
Sincerely Pete McLaughlin Sent from my iPad > On Mar 6, 2016, at 12:00 PM, The Resolution of Mind list > <[email protected]> wrote: > > ************* > The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] > ************ > Llewellin, > > John Rafanello's name I hear for the first time now. > From what you quote of him he seems to be a wise being. > > I've had an key-out experience years ago, in the aftermath > of a series of auditing sessions, which still has a profound > effect on me. > > Just out of the blue - actually it was in a streetcar in Vienna > - I suddenly had a feeling of extremely high ARC or love for > all that surrounded me including the people there. I felt > like being totally in tune with the universe, unshakable > and feeling lucky. > > An old man suddenly started talking to me - about something > that had happened to him in WW2; a severe injury, something > like that. He was seemingly recognizing me as a trustworthy > communication terminal. > > Despite that the key-out state was not of permanence, it was > an important experience for me. I had learned that it was > a matter of my own attitude towards the universe that made > the big difference. Had I experienced the same situation in > a normal (= lower) emotional mood I'd experienced it different. > Most likely I would have been annoyed or even disgusted > by what I'd have regarded as degenerated, unaesthetic, inferior, ... > But instead I felt a big empathy, a kind of solidarity and > oneness with those fellow humans around me. > > I guess one perceives the world like looking into a > mirror. The universe is indifferent, non judgmental; neither > good nor bad, it does not know beauty nor ugliness. It is > only the reflection of ones own sensitivities. > There are only _consequences_ we are subjected to. > > The "technical" view of the matter is: a) A being brings an affect > into existence by means of thinking - emoting - efforting. > b) Perceives the effect. c) Evaluates the perception (learning > phase). d) IF experienced effect IS just right; THEN ok; ELSE > adjust point (a) accordingly. > > This is kind of feedback loop. Depending on the beings individual > loop parameters (level of aberration, level of abilities, ...) it > takes them shorter or longer until the loop settles to the target > value (thus some learn faster than others). > > People often think they receive punishment/reward for what they do > from an external entity (e.g. God) whereas they actually experience only > the _consequences_ of their own decisions, thoughts, reflections, > postulates which are transformed via a complex algorithm (the > composite of mind and universe) into something to perceive (a reality). > > Short version: "The Universe Consists Only of Life and Postulates." (D.S.) > > --- > > Colleen, > > thank you for reading my post and reposting. It would have been > embarrassing for me if you decided to stay silent ;-) > > Regarding the waitress with her "black magic" the following may comfort you. > This woman will most likely lose her manipulative abilities sooner then > she would believe because she misuses them repeatedly. > Again, not out of punishment by the universe, God, or someone else but > because of herself. > > The mechanism works as follows: > Always winning is no fun -> in order to stay in the game she will > diminish her manipulative abilities to a degree that she invites > postulate-failure on her side. > Alternatively she will some day "accidentally" meet an opponent stronger > than herself and get overwhelmed. -> Down she goes along a dwindling > spiral along the packages legs and occasionally out-of-valence. > > No reason to get too excited about that. She has opted for a "finite game". > She has to bear the consequences. > It's not funny insofar because what happens to her does happen to all of us > as well. > > Do not expect that anyone will "choreograph the dance of life" for _you_. > The only one master games player who can bear that responsibility is _you_. > It is a matter of ownership. Some things are not open to delegation - even > if we pretend to wish someone would take over for us for the sake of > convenience. We currently need about over 7 billion choreographers > on earth. Be one. > > From what you do and say I think it is safe to assume that you're on a good > way. > > --- > > Pete, > > I agree that standing up against forces like the government (or the elite > which pulls the strings behind it) is no way to go. Going out to fight or > instigate revolution would carry the battle on the ground where they > are strongest and thus only act in their favor. > > This game did not change since ancient times. > It's name is "Divide and Conquer". > > The system's lifeblood is 'fiat-money'. If we all would suddenly deny its > use the empire would going to pieces overnight. The manipulation of the masses > by media, entertainment industry, opinion leaders, a.s.o. is still too > prominent to let that happen now. > > Nevertheless forerunners like us can already prepare for a possible more > desirable future, in that we build up our own local networks, start bartering > wherever possible, create local currencies a.s.o. > > I think you gave a great example what can be done on a local level. > > If a critical mass of awakened individuals is reached, the chances are > still intact to overthrow the 'not so benevolent' powers that currently > rule the world. We exclude them from our own universes and therefore > they will - on the long run - diminish without too much bloodshed. > > > Success to all of you > > Robin > > > > > >> On Sun, 06 Mar 2016 13:00:02 +0100, <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Send TROM mailing list submissions to >> [email protected] >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> [email protected] >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> [email protected] >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of TROM digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Commentary on Robin's post (The Resolution of Mind list) >> 2. RE Pan-Determinism (The Resolution of Mind list) >> 3. Re: RE Pan-Determinism (The Resolution of Mind list) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2016 20:51:30 +0200 >> From: The Resolution of Mind list <[email protected]> >> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >> Subject: [TROM1] Commentary on Robin's post >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Robin your post reminded me of someone of you may know - John Rafanello. I >> remember from a series of his videos, the following: >> >> "To postulate the existence of something and then to perceive it- >> the only two abilities of a being who is by nature infinite >> potential" >> >> "It is the awareness that you are every living entity >> on the planet while simultaneously being yourself." >> >> ?"If God IS EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE AND EVERY VIEWPOINT then the more >> viewpoints you have the more godlike you are... >> >> thus >> >> An infinite ability to occupy other viewpoints is FULL OT...?" >> >> ... >> Llewellin >> >> >> >>> Good morning Colleen, >>> >>> thanks for your question. >>> >>> I honestly belief that your approach of >>> <quote> "... perhaps hoping if I do enough of that it >>> might really happen in real life ..." >>> <end of quote> >>> is firmly based on a very valid and working assumption of yours. >>> And can't see any contradiction to Dennis' writings there. >>> I love that idea. >>> >>> Indeed I contemplated the pan-determinism issue already >>> early when I started with RI. I remember having had very good >>> indicators (VGIs) once with running the b) side of RI. >>> The cognition I had back then - and I'd like to share with you >>> in a minute - sounded so ridiculous to me that it gave me good >>> laugh and I ended the session at that point. But it's often just a >>> small step from the ridiculous to the sublime >>> >>> Well, it suddenly occurred to me that everything around me is >>> solely my creation. That includes all the beings, humans, you, >>> and you, ... as well. Since everyone was created or dreamed up by >>> me it was only natural that it was in my power to make those >>> beings create all kinds of effect. Factually they had no >>> free will of their own and everything, dead or alive, existed >>> only due to my mercy. I was the undisputed ruler of the universe; >>> a god! In order to have some fun thereof I decided to introduce >>> some randomity by simply granting the beings limited "free" will >>> - which is the equivalent of "not knowing" on my side. Great game! >>> >>> Example: Colleen since I've created you - and you actually do not exist >>> as a self determined person - I can exactly predict what you going to do >>> right now. You read this, right? (Needless to answer, I know it anyway). >>> I've not yet decided to know what you will post next but I'm sure >>> you will post something. Knowing it all down to every detail would >>> spoil the fun of the game. >>> >>> I'm kidding of course - and hope you do not mind my megalomania. >>> >>> But is not there a certain sublime component in that as well? >>> Let me explain. When we assume that not only me but any being >>> can think and postulate along the line of attitude I'd depicted >>> above then - as I see it - this supports the idea of oneness. >>> Meaning we are all one but still every one of us can owns his >>> individuality at the same instant. >>> >>> And that was the real cog. that caused my VGIs back then. >>> >>> >>> A splendid weekend to everybody >>> >>> Robin >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> <http://lists.newciv.org/pipermail/trom/attachments/20160305/9a77dbf7/attachment-0001.html> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2016 17:00:56 -0500 >> From: The Resolution of Mind list <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [TROM1] RE Pan-Determinism >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> RE Pan-Determinism: >> >> I once had a Jamaican waitress neatly pan-determine me to very gratefully >> slip her a $20 bill (at a buffet restaurant where all she did was say hello >> a few times). It wasn't until I heard her brag to another (Jamaican) >> waitress how she did that to me that I realized what she had done to me, >> and that sort of broke the spell (and my ego too). >> >> It didn't seem like her heart was really in the right place (not a win/win >> player). It seemed more she was just enjoying the power to mess with my >> mind, of which I myself have done plenty of that too and thoroughly enjoyed >> it in my days as a big dumb spirit :-)) >> >> However it would be a great delight to see a big, wise being pan-determine >> towards a new economy or system that makes the old win/lose, lose/lose >> economies obsolete, and thus make for a merrier life for meat bodies on >> this planet. >> >> Yes, by all means, choreograph us all into a win/win dance of life. A >> master games player lets the people think it was their own idea. >> >> I'm still at the stage of ferreting out my win/lose and lose/lose >> decisions/personas, while tasking myself with win/win scenarios, so I would >> not be a clean pan-determiner yet, but once one is clean on their win/win >> postulates it would put them in a whole new ball-park re games play. >> Exciting to contemplate. >> >> colleen >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> <http://lists.newciv.org/pipermail/trom/attachments/20160305/96c8c880/attachment-0001.html> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2016 18:00:10 -0800 >> From: The Resolution of Mind list <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [TROM1] RE Pan-Determinism >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> Hi Colleen >> >> Have you read James Carse's "Finite and Infinite Games". He posits that an >> adept game player will play a game to win until he sees that one of the >> players is losing at which point he will take action to get the player back >> to winning again so the game will never end. >> >> For instance, my neighbor has a pregnant wife and 4 kids but his wood >> stove's glass door was broken and his chainsaw was not working. He was >> losing the game of keeping his family warm. >> I talked him into letting me take the door from the wood stove to town where >> I had a new glass put in it. I also had the saw shop put a new bar and chain >> on the saw and provided him with logs to cut for firewood. Now all are warm >> and cozy and back to playing the game. >> >> Anyone can do this. It doesn't take a change at the national level it does >> take a change at the personal level. >> >> Sincerely >> Pete McLaughlin >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On Mar 5, 2016, at 2:00 PM, The Resolution of Mind list >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> ************* >>> The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] >>> ************ >>> RE Pan-Determinism: >>> >>> I once had a Jamaican waitress neatly pan-determine me to very gratefully >>> slip her a $20 bill (at a buffet restaurant where all she did was say hello >>> a few times). It wasn't until I heard her brag to another (Jamaican) >>> waitress how she did that to me that I realized what she had done to me, >>> and that sort of broke the spell (and my ego too). >>> >>> It didn't seem like her heart was really in the right place (not a win/win >>> player). It seemed more she was just enjoying the power to mess with my >>> mind, of which I myself have done plenty of that too and thoroughly enjoyed >>> it in my days as a big dumb spirit :-)) >>> >>> However it would be a great delight to see a big, wise being pan-determine >>> towards a new economy or system that makes the old win/lose, lose/lose >>> economies obsolete, and thus make for a merrier life for meat bodies on >>> this planet. >>> >>> Yes, by all means, choreograph us all into a win/win dance of life. A >>> master games player lets the people think it was their own idea. >>> >>> I'm still at the stage of ferreting out my win/lose and lose/lose >>> decisions/personas, while tasking myself with win/win scenarios, so I would >>> not be a clean pan-determiner yet, but once one is clean on their win/win >>> postulates it would put them in a whole new ball-park re games play. >>> Exciting to contemplate. >>> >>> colleen >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> TROM mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> <http://lists.newciv.org/pipermail/trom/attachments/20160305/6ef09813/attachment-0001.html> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TROM mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom >> >> >> End of TROM Digest, Vol 137, Issue 8 >> ************************************ > _______________________________________________ > TROM mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom _______________________________________________ TROM mailing list [email protected] http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom
