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Hi Marcus,
As far as I know, Ron always seemed to be rather secretive about his own
case.
[HCO POLICY LETTER OF 7 FEBRUARY 1965
... The contributions that were worthwhile in this period of forming the
technology
were help in the form of friendship, of defense, of organization, of
dissemination, of
application, of advices on results and of finance. These were great
contributions
and were, and are, appreciated. Many thousands contributed in this way and
made us what we are. Discovery contribution was not however part of the
broad
picture.
_*We will not speculate here on why this was so or how I came to rise above
the bank.*_ We are dealing only in facts and the above is a fact—the group
left to
its own devices would not have evolved Scientology but with wild
dramatizations
of the bank called "new ideas" would have wiped it out. Supporting this is
the
fact that man has never before evolved workable mental technology and
emphasizing it is the vicious technology he did evolve—psychiatry,
psychology, surgery,
shock treatment, whips, duress, punishment, etc., ad infinitum. .....]
There are numerous accounts from people who had known LRH personally, had
worked with
him and so on. There are biographies - the official one of CoS wnich is
glorifying
Ron - others from hostile people who describe him like he's the devil
himself -
still others who give a more balanced picture of LRH.
You can make your own conclusions on all of that stuff. Or just dig into
the
materials itself. I guess you will find how his tone changed and the
quality of
his material changed from early 50ties to later years. I dare say that the
changes
were not to the better. My impression is: Ron had a severe case.
However that may be, however much rightness, wrongness, redundancy,
bragging, ... may
be in his - and numerous other researcher's - works, it is finally always
up to YOU,
what you make out of the material. It is solely your responsibility. I can
not see
any use in blaming the writer. It's you who must "separate the wheat from
the chaff".
It's not so much about "amazing reads" - as you put it - but how can I use
it for
my own development. And this may not be uniformly the same for different
individuals. Pick out what you regard as the raisins for yourself, keep it
as
is, modify it, combine it, discard it all together, development your own
tech, ...
I guess there is no single line of text ever written in this universe that
is:
a) 100% right
b) 100% wrong
c) 100% free of redundancy (same thing had already been stated somewhere
else,
perhaps with different words).
So what? Why care about? The freedoms we have are just wonderful.
It is convenient to build upon the foundations already laid out by others.
I'm grateful that they did what they did - no matter how wrong they were.
That's great. Never the less we're perfectly free to build completely new
if we wish to do so.
All the best
Robin
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Very useful indeed, profoundly simple insight (and what I'd been doing a
lot of as it happens: asking the mind to process or give answers, or
even give permission?! rather than simply choosing & doing). A common
blind spot no doubt!
Thanks for sharing : )
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I hope this note will help someone down the road avoid the mistake I was
making with RI, and can see how simple it can be for the purposes of
having
a successful timebreaking session.
The mistake I was making was that I presented the creation to my mind
for
processing and not simply put it all around me as an exercise.
Thanks to feedback from fellow trommers, I have more certainty and
attention to actually put the item around my physical space and not in
my
head - not in my mind for my mind to process. It is now simply an
exercise.
I am exercising command power over my mind.*I* am doing the exercise
(technically one could say my current valence is doing the exercise,
and it
suffices for now).
Starting off the RI exercise using six directions (front/back,
top/bottom,
left/right) helps me ensure I really put the object(s) in my actual
space
around me, compared with how I was doing it for a long time.
To keep it simple I choose an object in my room - nothing fancy - a lamp
will do. I hold the object (or multiples of the object, for example,
three
lamps) in six directions and then add more so the objects (i.e., all the
lamps I created) are all around me; alternatively, I can make one larger
object and put it all around me holographically (i.e., a very large
version
of the lamp).
I do the same for "another", choosing some object they might have in
their
space. I don't get into any psychological aspects ... I just want to
keep
it simple and get onto timebreaking.
Either way does the job. I feel stress coming off, it's relaxing, and I
feel positive I'm ready to start the timebreaking.
Thank you fellow trommers for straightening me out on this with your
feedback.
Note: I'm not denying there are a lot of fun and interesting things one
can
do with RI.
For example, I did recently post how I was using extended RI to create
something from the ground up, and that was more a hobby and not related
to
a timebreaking session.
colleen
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Multiple times on this list I've came across people, some critics, some
favorable, saying that Dennis didn't complete his level 5 in Trom. Some
even saying that he didn't ever had started it (L.5) - I think J. Methven
says this in a post. That always seemed kind of wild and contradictory
with
the book itself.
Is this explained in any of the Trom's available materials? And is there
anything detailing Dennis' case evolution? I think I've read/listened to
at
least 90% of all of Trom's supplementary materials and I've never got
anything that would clarify this subject.
Plus, is there any reliable material explaining how Ron (LRH) developped
his own case and all of his early insights (before he wrote dianetics)?
I think anything relating to those subjects would be amazing reads.
Marcus
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Hi Marcus
You asked if Dennis completed level 5. Here is is statement on how he
developed TROM. He makes it clear that he completed level 2 and 3 and
suggests that he completed Level 5.
Sincerely
Pete McLaughlin
The Development of TROM
By Denis H. Stephens (transcribed from a taped lecture)
My name is Denis Stephens, and this is the 18th of January 1994, and
I?ve been asked to cut this piece of tape by Terry Scott for use at his
next conference.
0:00:12
About sixty years ago an American president named Roosevelt announced
that what America needed at that time was a good five cent cigar. Well,
a few years ago I decided that what this world needed was a good
workable do-it-yourself psychotherapy. And that psychotherapy now exists
and has the name of TROM, which is the acronym for The Resolution of
Mind.
0:00:44
Now, those of you who know your Dianetics will be saying to yourself,
?How on earth has Denis Stephens managed to derive a workable
do-it-yourself psychotherapy, when we all know?we all know?that the
reactive mind cuts in and cuts the analytical mind out of circuit during
therapy?? So if a person attempted to take their own reactive bank apart
they would fail, because the reactive bank would get restimulated and
would cut the analytical mind, their analytical mind out of circuit and
bring the auditing to a standstill. So how did Denis Stephens achieve
this remarkable feat? Let me tell you, it didn?t happen overnight. I
thought about the problem, on and off, for about ten or fifteen
years?this idea of preparing a do-it-yourself psychotherapy. And I
always did believe there was a way around the problem. Then, one day,
the penny dropped. Actually, it?s very, very simple. You get the
analytical mind, or you train the person, via the analytical mind, to do
what the reactive mind d
oes. And that is TROM. That is the first steps of TROM.
0:02:23
The reactive bank, the reactive mind, as we all know?those who studied
Dianetics and Scientology know that?well, first of all, they know that
there is such things as engrams, and that there is such things as
restimulation, and there is such things as reactive mind, and there is
such a thing as this reactive mind restimulating and cutting the
analytical mind out of circuit. These things are real things, these are
true things. These are real things for anyone who?s ever studied the
subject objectively and subjectively. It?s interesting that even knowing
this puts you into a far higher category than the average person alive
on this planet at this time?the fact that you know it and that you know
these things exist and you know these things to be true. The average
person doesn?t know this, ever?while there is a vast conspiracy afoot to
make sure that he never finds out too. But that?s another story.
0:03:19
So we have this reactive mind restimulating and impinging upon the
analytical mind and cutting the analytical mind out of circuit.
Essentially, this amounts to the fact that the?what the reactive mind
can do?it can move scenes, incidents, etc., out of the past and bring
them into the present. Now that is the basic function of the reactive
mind. If it couldn?t do that it would be powerless. It can actually
bring things out of the past and bring them into the present. Once I?d
spotted that I was on the road to doing it. Because I said to myself,
?[Why] don?t we apply one of Ron Hubbard?s well-known principles: that
if we get the preclear to do consciously that which his mind is doing
automatically, then this function will come under his own control.? So
what if we were to get a person to take things out of his past and bring
them into the present, and then take them back out of the present and
put them back into the past again? And we were to put this as an
exercise; we were to
formalise this as an exercise. Isn?t this exactly what the reactive
mind is doing? And if we got the person to do this consciously we would
be taking over the automaticity of the reactive mind. And the reactive
mind would lose its power over him. And this is precisely what happens.
I found the technique to do it. You will find these techniques at Level
2 and Level 3 of TROM. There are definite practical exercises which will
permit you to do this. You are simply taking over the automaticity of
your own reactive bank. So you can eventually?you get to the point where
you can say to your own reactive?you can just simply cock a snook at
your own reactive bank. You can do what it can do. It can
restimulateengrams? You can restimulate engrams. So it wants to
restimulate an engram? So can you. So you can beat it at its own game.
And once you got to that point the reactive bank goes quiet. It goes as
quiet as a lamb, and it leaves you alone, and it never bothers you
anymore afterwar
ds. You achieve that point when you?ve reached the top of Level 3 in
TROM.
0:05:59
Now, can these techniques be run on you by a separate therapist? Oh yes.
But they won?t achieve any result. Because while you?re dependent upon
the separate therapist you?ll never be able to cock a snook at your own
reactive bank. You must do these steps solo. You?ve got to do them solo.
If you want to crack that bank you?ve got to do steps 2 and 3 solo.
0:06:24
What about step 1? Oh, that?s simply an introductory step that finds out
whether the person is capable of running solo. It?s as simple as that. I
simply discovered a technique which would find out if a person is up to
running solo. Obviously, below a certain case level the person isn?t up
to it, and that itcould damage themselves as they attempted to run solo.
So we got to find this level out. Well okay, I developed a technique
which would do this. And that?s Level 1. If the person is below?if they
do Level 1 and Level 1 indicates that they?re not up to running solo:
okay, they do a very well-known set of Scientology objective exercises,
and when they?ve flattened those objective exercises they can then go
back and do Level 1, and they will now find that they will pass Level 1
and they?re ready to run solo. And they can then go on and complete the
job solo.
0:07:27
Technically, what Level 2 and Level 3 of TROM achieve is to break the
compulsive games condition that exists between a person and their own
reactive bank. It breaks that games condition down, until the game ends.
The person stops playing games with their own bank. Once they stop
playing games with their own bank, of course their bank quietens down
and goes away and leaves them alone.
0:07:54
Okay, so we have this person who?s reached the top of Level 3. Well,
where do they go from here? Well, they go into Level 4 and Level 5,
which is a general procedure for handling games across the whole of
life. They simply go in and take this whole subject of games apart. This
is why I call TROM?it?s called a Games Manual. It is a Games Manual. By
god, you learn about games in TROM! You learn all there is to know about
games in TROM. You learn so much about games in TROM that you give them
up after a while and stop playing them. You realise the sheer futility
of them. But before you can do that you?ve got to go through Level 5.
You?ve got to go through the subject of purposes, goals in conflict, and
get this whole subject of games resolved. That is Level 5. It takes?it?s
much longer to do this than Levels 2 and 3. Level 2 and 3 happen rather
quickly; you can get to the top of Level 2 and Level 3.
0:09:04
For many people they will simply stop there. The results are enormously
good at that stage. They might not want to go on to Levels 4 and 5. But
for those who want to go on, well, they?ve got to have to spend some
more time at it. But the results are well worthwhile, because you learn
all about?in Levels 4 and Level 5 you learn all about this universe, you
learn all about the games, and you learn all about the human psyche, and
all about minds. It?s all there, all locked up inside your own psyche.
It?s slowly divulged to you as you do Level 4 and Level 5?mainly on
Level 5; Level 4 is simply a preliminary step. It?s simply an
introductory step to Level 5. Level 5 is the key step there.
0:09:56
When you?ve finished Level 5, where do you go from there? Well, you
don?t go anyplace. I don?t know any Level 6. I?ve been looking for Level
6 for quite a while now. Every time I find a procedure that looks like a
Level 6 I find it?s a subdivision of Level 2, 3, 4 or 5. So I don?t know
of a Level 6. When you have got to the top of Level 5 and you reckon
you?ve found a Level 6, well you let me know. I would be pleased to hear
from you. But I don?t know of a Level 6.
0:10:22
All right, now what about case gains? What about case gains from TROM?
Well, talking from myself: by the time I?d reached the top of Level 3,
every procedure that I knew of in Scientology and Dianetics?those
processes?, every process and procedure that I knew of in Dianetics and
Scientology was flat. Not one of them had any charge on it. Flat. The
emotional tone on the top of Level 3 was serenity, which I could always
return myself to back very, very quickly any time I wanted to. Now, by
the time you?ve finished Level 5?and again I checked this out on
myself?every piece of Scientology technology and the upper levels of?the
OT levels of Scientology, is flat, flat, flat. There?s nothing. Nothing
that I know of in the field of Dianetics and Scientology will do
anything for your case. You?ve flattened the lot. You?ve finished. In
fact, I know by the time you?ve finished Level 5, I don?t know of any
psychological procedure that would do anything for you. You?ve done it,
you?ve res
olved it. You?ve resolved mind. The mind is resolved. The goal has been
achieved by the time you get to the top of Level 5. If it weren?t, I
wouldn?t be giving you this material; I would still be researching it, I
can assure you. Because I?m a very thorough researcher. One thing you
can be sure of: whatever you have when you get to the top of Level 5, it
is not an aberration. You?ve erased the lot.
0:12:07
Well, that is TROM. And I?m very grateful to Terry Scott for this
opportunity to introduce you to the subject. Thank you very much.
END OF TRANSCRIPT
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Multiple times on this list I've came across people, some critics, some
favorable, saying that Dennis didn't complete his level 5 in Trom.
Some even saying that he didn't ever had started it (L.5) - I think J.
Methven says this in a post. That always seemed kind of wild and
contradictory with the book itself.
Is this explained in any of the Trom's available materials? And is
there anything detailing Dennis' case evolution? I think I've
read/listened to at least 90% of all of Trom's supplementary materials
and I've never got anything that would clarify this subject.
Plus, is there any reliable material explaining how Ron (LRH)
developped his own case and all of his early insights (before he wrote
dianetics)?
I think anything relating to those subjects would be amazing reads.
Marcus
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