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Hi David
Well Done on timebreaking the present time situation.  
It's good to hear you are making progress in eliminating your mind.

Sincerely
Pete McLaughlin

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> Colleen:
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> Quote: My question for you is how are you currently processing be-do-have and 
> what results are you seeing? 
> 
> 
> 
> For about three years now, I have been doing level three.
> 
> I couldn't do it  sitting in my chair, because I would pass out.
> 
> 
> So I found out that I could do it lying in bed.
> 
> 
> I would do it before falling asleep if I was not too tired, or more so when I 
> wake up in the middle of the night,  and do it  until I fell asleep again, 
> which was usually not too long. 
> 
> 
> I just alternately punched in:
> 
> Prevented from  being, (must be- can't be)
> 
> Prevented from doing, (must do-can't do)
> 
> Prevented from having. (must have- can't have)
> 
> And other issues (junior goals).  
> 
> Even abuse (degrade).
> 
> I had no trouble (that I am aware of) running such non life goal.
> 
> 
> And I would scan and time break what ever pictures came up.
> 
> If I did not have enough energy to time break, (which is/ was usually the 
> case),  I  would  just hold them in view and make them more intense, get into 
> them more, or  what ever until they run flat.
> 
> 
> I would usually fall asleep before they run flat.
> 
> My mind would often continue to process while I slept.
> 
> 
> 
> During the day, I would occasionally go for walks and look at things near and 
> far.
> 
> 
> My mind is now still. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I have been  running L4  for a few days now,  and I have a hard time finding 
> pictures.
> 
> 
> I know there is still lots there somewhere.
> 
> I still easily get restimulated,  especially in conflicting situations with 
> assholes and idiots (SPs) .
> 
> 
> I still have lots of catatonia and cataplexy and other disorders.  
> 
> I have engrams on work from a very young age, by being always scolded  to 
> work and being criticized while working by my dad.  
> 
> Work is restimulating especially when the boss gets angry for some reason.
> 
> Facsimilies would come up and overwhelm me into paralysis (cataplexy and 
> catatonia) and before long I was no more good on that job and would get fired 
> or had to quit.  
> 
> That has been my life story.
> 
> 
> 
> Last week I was helping someone do some work on his house and he was in a bad 
> mood one day and got angry at me for no good reason.
> 
> Traumatic pictures came up.
> 
> I was able to time break them in a couple of  minutes and then was not overly 
> bothered by them.
> 
> I kept my cool.  I stayed in the game quite well. 
> 
> This never happened like that before.
> 
> I was pretty impressed with myself. 
> 
> That is just like Dennis says in the book. 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> Now I think it is mostly "other(s)"  postulates left.  
> 
> L5 is another story.
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> I am working on it.
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> 
> 
> 
> David 
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>> On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 1:01 PM, The Resolution of Mind list 
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>> Hi Colleen
>>  Thanks for the video clip of Gordon Ramsey.  He did not understand what the 
>> meditation was for. He was not ready to let go of his compulsive games 
>> playing.
>> 
>> Very good example.
>> 
>> Keep on TROMing
>> Pete Mclaughlin
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>>> On Sep 11, 2016, at 9:13 AM, The Resolution of Mind list 
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>>> Hello, DavidP (Note: there are two other Davids on this list), Colleen 
>>> here. Thank you for bringing up be-do-have. There was another Trommer who 
>>> gave it a lot of importance and processed it using Level 4 commands.  BTW, 
>>> did you know "To Have" is listed as a junior goals package?  
>>> 
>>> Did you know that Hubbard said to resolve be-do-have limitations starting 
>>> first with "To Have"?   For example, what is important for you re To Have, 
>>> then, using reason, what would one have to do in order to have that, and 
>>> then what would one have to be in order to do that? 
>>> 
>>> That is from Hubbard...it was about having. Hubbard could just as well have 
>>> said the same thing about "To Know". One wants to know something/someone, 
>>> so what would they need to do in order to achieve that, and then what would 
>>> they need to present themselves as being in order to do that?  So, isn't 
>>> to-have really to-know?
>>> 
>>> I recall those Old Testament (King James version) stories where a man would 
>>> get married and then he would enter the tent and "know" his wife, whereas 
>>> today we might say "have" or something else, but I think the King James 
>>> translation was a more accurate higher truth than they may have realized.
>>> 
>>> My question for you is how are you currently processing be-do-have and what 
>>> results are you seeing?  
>>> 
>>> For myself, "To Have", or "must have" (as a compulsion) is part of my "Must 
>>> Know" case, i.e., I must have it so I can know it, experience it. I must 
>>> have a comm line with that person so that I can know them/experience 
>>> whatever effects they are creating; so best to find someone who wants to be 
>>> known [for that] so the relationship can be complementary. For example I 
>>> have a complementary relationship with a "must know" person who is very 
>>> happy with me as long as I am feeding them good data regarding subjects of 
>>> their interest, or latest problem to solve.
>>> 
>>> As for "To Be", wouldn't that correspond with Dennis' junior universes?  
>>> For example, to be a fisherman, and getting stuck in that universe. John 
>>> Galusha's Idenics process is one way to expand ability to be. Dennis says 
>>> the universe is life and postulates, and an identity is some postulates 
>>> rigged together.
>>> 
>>> I agree with you that - in spite of its utter simplicity and effectiveness 
>>> - Level Two is a tough gradient for the complicated minds on this planet. 
>>> If you click on this video and forward to 18:00 you will get a demo of what 
>>> I'm talking about:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IY2Nc6JPBW8. If the 
>>> link gets scrubbed google Gordon Ramsey in Thailand and go to the 18:00 
>>> mark.
>>> It's not only Trom, it's ALL CLEARING PRACTICES that compulsive / 
>>> complicated / noisy / egoic minds run away from.  
>>> 
>>> When a person gets down to their last game leg (as they see it) then they 
>>> might start self-enquiring, searching for an end to suffering, and the 
>>> craziness, and possibly for someone to help them resolve their mental 
>>> issues. 
>>> 
>>> I am postulating the best outcome for you.
>>> 
>>> colleen
>>> 
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