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I see "native state" or Nirvana much more explicitly as:
To simply Be or exist Totally happy which means lacking for nothing, having everything I want already no matter how little that may be. Having no desire to do anything With good will toward others. No need to get anything from others or force anything on others. So the simple statement is to Be with total happiness and good will toward all. It is not difficult to achieve for at least short periods of time. With practice we can remain in the state longer and with much processing of TROM maintain the state permanently. We also achieve this state while in dreamless sleep. Dreaming is usually a games condition so not Nirvana. Sincerely Pete Mclaughlin Sent from my iPad > On Sep 13, 2016, at 6:13 AM, The Resolution of Mind list > <[email protected]> wrote: > > ************* > The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] > ************ > Robin, > > > Briefly.... > > Based on what I learned from research and my experience: > > The true state of clear or nirvana is the same as the kingdom of heaven and > the kingdom of God. > > > > Based on my experienced, what is required is, a perfect set of ethics and > adherence to. > > And a noble saintly Godly character. > > > You have to clear out all engrams which means: go genuinely clear. > > (There are no genuine bonafide clears in scn. It is impossible under that > system (or on that bridge,..... that bridge is a con job and a trap. Hubbard > perverted it for his own evil game.) > > > > You have to exhaust all the evil and asshole traits in you and not shit on > anyone, and desire not to play games. > > The road to the kingdom of heaven is straight and narrow. > > (You don't stop at the road side bar for a cold one on the way there.) > > > > Be ye perfect as your Father in heaven is perfect. > > > And Jesus said; No one comes unto the Father except through me. > > > David > > > > >> On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 11:46 PM, The Resolution of Mind list >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> ************* >> The following message is relayed to you by [email protected] >> ************ >> Hi David, >> >>> The problem is knowing how to use it properly, manage it and maintain it >>> (stay in it). >> >> Yes, I guess you make a good point here. >> >> Perhaps one has to go through some kind of hells first in order to >> value this state properly? >> >> We'll see. >> >> >> Robin >> >> >> ------------------ >> >> >> On Mon, 12 Sep 2016 21:45:03 +0200, <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Send TROM mailing list submissions to >>> [email protected] >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> [email protected] >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> [email protected] >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of TROM digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Re: Message To David P. -- (Re: TROM Digest, Vol 143, Issue >>> 13) (The Resolution of Mind list) >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 12:51:50 -0400 >>> From: The Resolution of Mind list <[email protected]> >>> To: The Resolution of Mind list <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: [TROM1] Message To David P. -- (Re: TROM Digest, Vol 143, >>> Issue 13) >>> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>> >>> Robin, >>> >>> Thank you for your reply and input. >>> >>> Quoting you: >>> >>> >>> >>> *I guess it does not end (in our terms) and may theoretically lead to >>> 'native state'. Which we once had but did not find too desirable because >>> it's no fun.* >>> >>> >>> I had a couple of very good releases in years past, (two weeks each) where >>> I would say I was in something that I would call native state or certainly >>> very close it. >>> >>> >>> It was amazing, exciting and incredible fun, the ultimate fun, the >>> ultimate existence. >>> >>> The problem is knowing how to use it properly, manage it and maintain it >>> (stay in it). >>> >>> >>> David >>> >>> . >> _______________________________________________ >> TROM mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom > > _______________________________________________ > TROM mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.newciv.org/mailman/listinfo/trom
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