Glenn wrote:
> I was taking DAvid's word for it.  I'll let
> David respond.   I don't think you have read
> the Apocrypha.  It has Jesus zapping people
> as a little child just to mention one thing I remember
> from reading it 100 years. ago.  :-)

The waters are getting really muddy now.  I don't think the quote Dave
attributed to me was me either, but that is not material right now.  Let me
clarify some things.

The Apocrypha which we were discussing are the 14 books written before the
time of Christ.  Primarily these were the Inter-Testament books, written
between the time of Malachi and the time of John the Baptist.  As far as I
know, none of them speak about Jesus zapping people as a little child.  I
think Glenn is confusing the New Testament Apocryphal books, known as the
pseudipigrapha, with the Old Testament Apocryphal books included in the
Vulgate and hence many other Bibles.

While many Bibles included the Apocryphal books, that does not mean that
they were considered at the same level of inspiration as the other books.
The Apocrypha was separated from the other books and kept as its own
collection.  Many Protestants feel that they never held status as Scripture.
Others, like Roman Catholics, will argue that they did hold that authority,
and they consider their inclusion in the Septuagint and Vulgate versions as
strong evidence of that.  They consider the 16th century Roman Catholic
council which canonized some of the Apocryphal books as simply an
affirmation of what had always been.  Protestants generally view the council
as adding the books to the Canon.  When you understand the difference in
perspective between Protestants and Roman Catholics concerning the authority
of tradition, the dynamics of this debate become understandable.

Peace be with you.
David Miller.

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