DAVEH:� Well Blaine, I don't think you were expecting me to respond to this, but I thought I might toss in one more example of a BofM passage relating to baptism........
"And he commandeth all men that they must repent, and be baptized in his name, having perfect faith in the Holy One of Israel, or they cannot be saved in the kingdom of God.� And if they will not repent and believe in his name, and be baptized in his name, and endure to the end, they must be damned; for the Lord God, the Holy One of Israel, has spoken it."� 2Ne 9:23-34 ........BTW......I am tempted to continue quoting the next few verses about the atonement, as I think it would enlighten many people who would like clarification about the nature of the atonement.� But as I've said before, I'm not here to preach.� For those who think there is nothing to be learned from the BofM, you might want to read verses 25 to 29. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Blainer)� I WROTE THIS SOME TIME AGO AND GOT NO REBUTTAL TO IT, NO > COMMENT, NO NOTHING.� SO, MAYBE YOU GUYS--DAVEM AND GLENN--DID NOT READ > IT.� So, here it is again.� I think it is plain and clear. > > Blainer)� Again, I am sorry to interrupt, but the example given by DaveH > is right on.� This is one example--an excellent example--of what the BoM > is saying regards missing information.� The concept of Baptism is much > debated among Christians, not only whether or not children need to be > baptized, but whether baptism needs to be by immersion or whatever, why > the Lord suffered himself to be baptized, etc..� These are important > points, and the BoM covers them very nicely.�� As the BoM points out, > contention caused by disagreements over these points gives Satan power > over those who do not have the plainness of the more sure word of God. > > Here are some clarifying points from the BoM about Baptism: > > Nephi explains why the Lamb of God was baptized:� (2 Nephi� 31:7) > "Know ye not that he was holy?� But notwithstanding he being holy, he > showeth unto the children of men that, according to the flesh he humbleth > himself before the Father, and witnesseth unto the Father that he would > be obedient unto him in keeping His commandments." > > The mode of baptism is given:� (3 Nephi 11:23, 26) > "� .�� .� . on this wise shall ye baptize them--Behold, ye shall go down > and stand in the water,� .� .� .� and then shall ye immerse them in the > water, and come forth again out of the water." > > The source of disputations and contention regarding baptism is given:� (3 > Nephi 11:28-29) > "And according as I have commanded you thus shall ye baptize.� And there > shall be no disputations among you, as there have hitherto been;� .� .� . > �FOR VERILY I SAY UNTO YOU, HE THAT HATH THE SPIRIT OF CONTENTION IS NOT > OF ME, BUT IS OF THE DEVIL, who is the father of contention, and he > stirreth up the hearts of men to contend with anger, one against another; > �but this is my doctrine, that such things shall be done away." > > So, there you have it--the main reason Satan has power over those who do > not have these clarifications, and the main reason God in his mercy gave > us the BoM. > > On Mon, 16 Sep 2002 10:06:51 -0400 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > writes: > > Hi Dave.� We seem to be getting into a stalemate, -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ � ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
