Blainer)  That was nicely done number one.  I liked your extensive
discussion of the subject.  Itdeserves an "A" for effort and quality.   
I believe the serpent was definitely a type of Christ, as you mentioned. 
I am not all that sure exactly what the symbolism is, but I would not
exclude the possibility of attributing wisdom to serpents.  I have read
the passage, "Be ye wise as serpents, yet without sin."    I will have to
look into this more.  

On Thu, 26 Sep 2002 10:23:09 -0400 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
> Glenn wrote:
> > I have a good personal friend who was a medical
> > missionary in Africa.  For many years he medically
> > treated people, started churches, hospitals, clinics,
> > etc., He told me the snake on the medical symbol
> > goes back to witchcraft, etc..
> > DavidM ... do you know anything about the medical
> > symbol?
> 
> The medical symbol is called the caduceus.  It was the magic wand of 
> the
> Greek god Hermes (the Roman god Mercury).  It was said that Hermes 
> conducted
> the souls of the dead to the underworld, and he was the god of 
> dreams and
> sleep.  Hermes was the messenger of the gods, so heralds and 
> ambassadors
> used the symbol as a badge of their inviobility.
> 
> The Greco-Roman god of healing and medicine was Asclepius.  He had a 
> staff
> with a single snake around it.  The temples built to Asclepius were 
> like
> hospitals where the sick would come.  People would sleep in the 
> temples,
> thinking that the god would heal them in their sleep and dreams.  
> There are
> many inscriptions that exist today, giving testimony to healings.
> 
> The medical profession uses the caduceus of Hermes, which does not 
> really
> have any relevance to the healing god Asclepius, although both 
> involve
> snakes.  Exactly how or why this has happened is not clear.
> 
> There are many different explanations given by different sources, 
> and it is
> impossible to know the truth of it all.  For example, those who seek 
> to
> disassociate the symbol from Greek mythology have said that early 
> treatment
> of parasitic worms was to cut the patient in front of the worm, put 
> a stick
> in there, and the worm would wind itself around the stick until it 
> could be
> fully extracted.  Of course, this does not correspond as closely to 
> the
> symbol as the staff of Hermes, so one must question the motives for
> explanations like this one.  It seems to me that they are just 
> trying to
> distance themselves from the Greek mythology.
> 
> One connection to witchcraft that I know of is that the Greek word 
> for
> witchcraft is pharmakeia, from which we get our word "pharmacy."  
> The use of
> drugs and medicines has always had a tie to witchcraft, but, of 
> course,
> modern medicine has obvious differences from the practice of 
> witchcraft.
> 
> The meaning of a serpent is complex and found in many cultures.  
> Moses did
> lift a serpent up on a pole, as Blaine said, but how that is 
> interpreted can
> take many different forms.  On the surface, we might say that Moses
> crucified the snake on the pole, and hence was showing its 
> destruction.  New
> Testament comments about it show that it was a type of Christ.  Then 
> again,
> the New Testament explains how Jesus became sin for us, that we 
> might become
> the righteousness of God.  So the serpent that Moses lifted up is 
> still
> connected with the idea of evil, if we consider all of this 
> together.
> Blaine might want to make some connection to say that Jesus is a 
> serpent,
> but I think the better understanding here is that Jesus became that 
> serpent,
> he became sin, when on the cross, but now he is not a serpent.  I 
> wonder if
> a Mormon like Blaine might prefer a serpent symbol for Christ over 
> the
> symbol of a cross?  Maybe he will tell us.
> 
> In my opinion, the serpent generally represents evil and Satan; 
> however,
> there are spiritual forces in this world that seek to make the 
> serpent
> appear good and powerful.  I think the caduceus is an example of 
> that.
> While these forces might also seek to make the serpent "good" by 
> associating
> it with the staff that Moses lifted up in the wilderness, I think 
> spiritual
> people will see through that and understand that Jesus became sin 
> for us on
> the cross, but now he is no longer sin or that serpent.  He was 
> lifted up
> once on the cross for all mankind, for our healing, but now he is
> resurrected, never to taste sin and death again.
> 
> Peace be with you.
> David Miller.
> 
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