First of all, by the witness of two or three, truth is established. I have heard you say a couple of times that Marlin compared present day Christians to Hitler. Then for weeks refused to condemn Hitler. Now, it's my belief that the two or three witness must be different mouths (which means your two posts do not qualify as two witnesses... only one) and I haven't heard Marlin admit to this; nor have I heard anyone back your claim. Could you go back through your archives and publish his post for me so I can see it in context? Now, my archives only go back so far, and my "hacking" has revealed two posts regarding Hitler, and the www.mail-archive.com thing makes it impossible to find information. One post I got was a joke where the reader had to choose between three leaders and the one that sounded the best was Hitler. Then, I discovered this excerpt looped with it in regards to Hitler:
Hitler was a degenerate, reportedly a coprophile.  Even then, he may have been better than FDR who laid the biggest part of the foundation for the degradation of this nation.
Your speedy reply to my quandary would be most appreciated.
 
 
 
 
Secondly, we have a problem with semantics again. My use of terms is different than yours. I would like to define a few...
Salvation -- call upon the name of Adonai Yeshua ha Mashiach and you shall be saved.
Eternal Life -- Belief in Messiah Yeshua and you will not perish but attain Eternal Life.
Walking with YHVH -- Walk before me and be perfect, you shall keep the commandments of YHVH Eloheinu to walk in His ways and to fear Him, we are His workmanship created in Messiah Yeshua unto good works which God has before ordained that we should walk in them.
Righteousness -- Belief is accredited to your account as righteousness; it shall be our righteousness if we observe to do all these commandments before YHVH Eloheinu as he has commanded us.
By defining the terms, the answer is clear:
  • If I want to please YHVH, I will obey Him. If I want to be displeasing to YHVH, I will disobey Him.
  • If I want Eternal Life, I will believe on Yeshua/Jesus.
  • If I want to be saved, I will call upon YESHUA, YHVH.
 
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Glenn. Hello, Glenn?

So glad you are clearing things up.  However, I understand Marlin to say if we don't observe Saturday worship we are not going to heaven or we are not in the will of God.  Marlin is sneaky.  He compared present day Christians to Hitler.  Then for weeks refused to condemn Hitler. 

Now, for you.  Do I have to observe Saturday worship in order to be right with God?  Yes, or no, please.  If you say this, this is putting me back under the law.  That is a Judaizer. 

HalleluYAH!!!

Glenn, you've hit the nail on the head!! There are NO JUDAIZERS in the TruthTalk forum because no one has ever said we need to "go back under the Mosaic Law in order to be saved." David has never said that. Chris has never said that. Izzy has never said it. I have never said it.

Done. Now we don't have to belabor the point any longer. Now, we can only discuss whether there is a merit to keeping the Torah or not.

Glenn says "no.  I am with Jesus on this one. You can be with Moses."

Slade says, "I'm with Moses on this one. I'm with the Prophets on this one. I'm with Jesus on this one. I'm with the Apostles on this one."


Thanks, Glenn, for clearing this all up.


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Sent: Thursday, 03 April, 2003 22:34
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Glenn. Hello, Glenn?


David, your question is disingenuous.   Moses lived under the law and Jesus lived under the law UNTIL his death, burial, and resurrection.  The Bible says we are not under the law now. 

Judaizers are trying to teach Christians must go back under the Mosaic law in order to go to heaven.

Glenn wrote:
> I am with Jesus on this one. You can be with Moses.

Glenn, are Jesus and Moses on opposite sides?  When did this happen?

Peace be with you.
David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida.





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