Gary wrote:
> if you can, pls supply a valid historical reference, 
> otherwise known as a footnote, below:
> 
> On Fri, 4 Apr 2003 13:55:25 -0500 "David Miller" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> <<At the time of [Hitler's] rise to power, 
> the Catholic Church and many Protestant 
> churches supported him, much like this 
> same group protests the war in Iraq right now. >>

The statement here is original with me, based upon my own studies, so a
footnote is not appropriate.  We already discussed this before and I
don't have the time to write a book and reproduce a lot of sources for
you right now on this subject.  They evidently didn't impress you when I
gave them to you last year, so I doubt that my taking time to give them
to you again would help now.  Anyone who takes the time to read "Mein
Kampf" would see quite readily that Adolf Hitler was a Christian who
professed faith in Jesus Christ, spoke highly of the Christian religion,
and considered the Christian religion more important than the state.
Hitler showed knowledge of the Scriptures, regularly quoting the Bible
to justify his position.  Hitler's father wanted Adolf to go into the
ministry, and Hitler at one time had planned to do so, but his love for
art (painting) and then the state took him along a different path.
Hitler believed and openly confessed that he was doing God's will.  Many
Christian sects, especially the Roman Catholics and the Lutherans,
supported him with rallies, money, speeches, and in numerous other ways.
The only Christian sect outwardly against him that I know of was the
Confessional Church of which Deitrich Boenhoeffer was a part.

Last year I shared the following link with you:

http://www.freethought-web.org/ctrl/quotes_hitler.html

The link is from a non-religious source with an anti-Christian bias, but
the pictures themselves should help show you that Hitler was not the
atheistic, anti-Christian dictator that many Christians today try to
paint him out to be.  It is human nature to change history after the
fact, to view it in a different way than what was happening at the time.
Everybody, Christians and non-Christians alike, want to distance
themselves from Adolf Hitler today, and so a picture is painted of him
by the Christians as someone who was not a Christian, and a picture is
painted of him by the non-Christians was someone who definitely was
Christian.  If you want the truth, you will have to read Adolf Hitler's
own writings and judge for yourself.  Also read what the Roman Catholic
Church and the Protestant sects were doing when Hitler was rising to
power.  Most of them supported him and only distanced themselves from
him later.  You might consider some of the following quotes, most of
which I'm sure that I shared already with you last year:

"Verily a man cannot serve two masters. And I consider the foundation or
destruction of a religion far greater than the foundation or destruction
of a state, let alone a party."  -Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf"

"I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so."
( Adolf Hitler, from John Toland, Adolf Hitler, New York: Anchor
Publishing,
1992, p. 507. )
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"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of
the
Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for
the
work of the Lord."  (Mein Kampf, by Adolf Hitler.  1971.  Translated by
Ralph
Manheim, Houghton Mifflin Company, Boston)
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"My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter.
It
points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few
followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to
fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer
but
as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read
through
the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and
seized
the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders.
How
terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison. Today, after two
thousand
years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before
the
fact that it was for this that He had to shed his blood upon the Cross.
As a
Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the
duty
to be a fighter for truth and justice."  ( Adolf Hitler, in a speech
delivered at Munich, April 12, 1922; from Norman H. Baynes, ed., The
Speeches of Adolf Hitler: April 1922-August 1939, Vol. 1, New York:
Oxford
University Press, 1942, p. 19. )
-----
"And now Staatspr�sident Bolz says that Christianity and the Catholic
faith
are threatened by us. And to that charge I can answer: In the first
place it
is Christians and not international atheists who now stand at the head
of
Germany." ( Adolf Hitler, in a speech delivered at Stuttgart, February
15,
1933. )
-----

Peace be with you.
David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida.

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