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Slade:
I think Paul is emphatically stating that this is his educated guess and not direct revelation. We need not consider it God's command, but since it is part of scripture, we cannot ignore it either.
Terry
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Date: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 04:07:56 PM
Subject: Re: PROBABLE SPAM Re: [TruthTalk] Absent From The Body
This is called "winning an argument through absurdity." I merely pointed out that Paul often uses literary devices and he said, "I say, not the Lord."
Explain why Paul uses the term, "I SAY, AND NOT THE LORD." This is the point I was making.
Since I seem to have a twisted view of Scripture and I take Paul for what Paul said, I need someone to interpret I SAY AND NOT THE LORD for me.
shalom
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Sent: Tuesday, 27 May, 2003 10:10
Subject: PROBABLE SPAM Re: [TruthTalk] Absent From The Body
Perry I agree with what you said to Slade. We can't discount the inspiration of the Holy Spirit either in the Word or in our individual interpretation. Laura
So what you are saying, Slade, is that unless Paul attributes the words to
Jesus, he could be just blowing smoke and we are not to believe what he
says. So, I assume this is true for the rest of the bible authorss as well.
So, since only a portion of the Bible actually falls under the "Thus saith
the Lord" category, we can effectively discount the rest.
Paul does not speak as an idle bystander...he was taught by the apostles,
probably is the one who was "taken up to the third heaven", and most likely
was even instructed by the Lord Himself. Yet you say that we cannot believe
him? I guess we'll just have to edit the Bible and throw out those parts
that the Lord did not speak directly, because I was taught that the
scripture was an inspired text, and that although the writers wrote in their
own styles, that the content was inspired by the Holy Spirit. Now you are
saying Paul was free to throw in his own ideas and thoughts, which were not
inspired. I suppose now that most of the doctrinal writings of Paul, as in
Romans, and to the churches in Asia must be thrown out, too, because most of
those works do not quote Christ directly. Likewise, I guess the churches
receiving the letters were free to decide whether they liked Paul's ideas
and whether or not they wanted to follow his doctrinal teachings.
Wow, if this is so, I guess I will have to go back and re-read the Bible and
discount anything Paul said unless he attributes it directly to Jesus.
Is this how you apply Paul's teaching?
Perry
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