Terry,
I can read this on Shabbat—it is fellowshipping
(except in the case of gary J ). The first floor of our old
house has narrow tiger oak boards. I’m told they are rare, as the
logs were cut in 1/4ths and then across to make the tiger striping. It is a
pretty grain. The 2nd floor boards are so bad I’m just
painting them as I redo each room.
Let’s see—your quilter friends gets $1200.00 for
probably 1200 hours of work—what a way to get rich! I spent
probably 4 hours yesterday making one quilt block (with a lot of help from my 11 year old stepdaughter,
Erin!) Of course there are some folks who make quilts to sell, but the
quality is not the same as those that are done for love or enjoyment.
Some of the grand prize winners at the annual international
American Quilters Society quilt show have turned down the $10,000 prize (the AQS
then keeps the quilt to put it in the AQS Museum) because it wasn’t worth
that for all the hours they put into it. I noticed this year the prize money
had gone up to 15-20K. A friend of mine here has won several times and
spends at least a year of effort into each quilt. I’d never sell a
quilt. I give them away to family, but won’t sell them.
Izzy
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Since this is the Sabbath, do not read
this until sundown.
Rifles usually require about eight hours
labor on metal work and forty hours on the stock. The lighter calibers
are usually for varmint hunters, the medium ones for hunting the USA and
Canada, and the real big ones are most often used in Africa.
Oregon probably has the most beautiful
maple wood, either Quilted maple or fiddleback (tigerstripe).
California has the Walnut market, or at
least ninety percent of it. Out there they graft English walnut trees
onto black walnut stumps for use in english walnut groves or orchards.
When these trees get too old to produce well, or the orchard is replaced by a
parking lot, the trees are harvested , cut and cured. An Exhibition grade
piece of Walnut large enough to make a gunstock runs around three hundred
dollars. That is one of the reasons that people do not build homes out of
fancy walnut.
There used to be a black lady down the
road from us that made quilts, all by hand stitching. She said
she got twelve hundred dollars for one quilt. If you do that, you may be
one of the rich, tho not likely the filthy rich.
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No, I don’t nothin’
‘bout rifles, but it sure sounds impressive! Are they all for big game
hunting, or what? How long did it take to make them? (I always hate when they
ask me that about quilts, as no one can keep track of all those hours.) Where
do you get your woods? We have a friend who makes impressive furniture, and he
would surely appreciate your woods. Back to quiltin’! Iz
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Iz, forgot to answer the last question. Just
finishing up three guns. A Ruger number one in .458 Lott, a .460 Weatherby,
and a 308Win caliber bolt gun on a Ruger action with a
multi-colored laminated stock described as desert sunset. A little wild
for my taste, but I ain't paying for it. Next up is a Reminton 700 in
.300 Win Mag on a laminated camo stock, then a Sako on exhibition grade
fiddleback walnut. Probably none of that makes sense to you unless you
know a lot more about rifles than I do about quilts.
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Date: Friday,
June 13, 2003 07:26:08 PM
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Terry,
Why do you think I am unaware of Masonic rites? Who is
judging whom? I’ve probably read as much about them as you have.
Haven’t participated in any though; have you? I am also aware that lots
of presidents have been Masons, from Washington on, which tells me that a lot
of good men are clueless about what it really means. If you want to
call me “ignert” because I don’t accept unconfirmed
slanderous rumors, enjoy yourself. However, I would do the same for
you.
I love a man who doesn’t allow the dust to settle on
him ahead of time. As far as George Wallace, he was a BIT too hateful for
me—but that was before I could vote. (Just thought I’d throw that
in for laughs.) Al Sharpton is George Wallace of a different color.
What kind of rifle are you making right now?
Izzy
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If the truth were known, probably no one is above
reproach. If you want to know the painful facts, do a search of
Masonic sites. I do not remember which one or ones bragged about it,
but Bush and most all our other prezes have been Masons. It would be
hard to be elected if one were not. If you just want to stay
blissfully ignernt, don't bother lookin' too hard.
As to retirement........... when I take the old dirt
nap, but not until I die or become too inept to do a quality job. I
love what I do and cannot stand to be idle.
As to your other questions; I really liked George
Wallace for president. He was a little too liberal for me, but better
than the rest I've seen. I haven't seen anyone exciting since
then. In the last election, I voted for the guy that claimed to be a
Christian and was not a Mason. Right now, I could not even tell you
his name, tho it will come to me immediately upon sending this missive.
What do you think of Al Sharpton in the next one.
I know he is a Democrat, but he is also a reverend, probably above
reproach.![]()
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Date: Friday,
June 13, 2003 02:56:41 PM
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Terry,
Looks like you make modern rifles—a very impressive craft. (Kinda like
quilting!) My ex-husband made a couple of rifles--one Kentucky rifle and
one Hawken, which I hope he leaves to our two sons when he goes on to his
eternal reward. Glad to see you aren’t sitting around in your rocking
chair, but are being a productive citizen and Christian. And happy to know
you love the rich as well as the poor. J
Regarding GW Bush being a Mason, I have two theories:
(1) He is not a Mason. I have yet to find credible evidence, so it is
likely a smear, or (2) He is just a Christian who has not been educated
about why is it wrong to be a Mason. I assume that everyone who has accused
GW Bush of supposedly being a Mason is personally above reproach himself.
Izzy
PS I eagerly await your response to my other
questions.
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I make custom rifles that the average hunter or
target shooter cannot afford, www.cliftonrifles.com
. Rich guys are my bread and butter. I love them. Long may
they live!
I believe that the Bush family is head and shoulders
above the Kennedy family,and the Barney Frank and Bob Graham
families, in honesty and in morality, and personal hygiene, and most
other stuff. I simply do not know how a Mason can claim to be a
Christian while belonging to a group that traces it's beginning to
Nimrod. 'Splain that to me please.
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Terry,
If you could choose anyone you wanted to be President
of the USA who would it be (other than gary) ?
I was also wondering if you could explain to me the
platform of the Libertarian Party. Do you like that party?
You also compared the Kennedy family to the Bush
family. Other than the fact that both families are “filthy
rich” and politically influential, what similarities do you see
there? It seems to me that the Kennedy family got “filthy
rich” by doing illegal bootlegging during the Prohibition, and have
been notoriously adulterous and in many cases criminal. It seems to
me that the Bush family gained their wealth legally, and that they are
decent people overall. I don’t understand why you would lump them
together unless you just dislike anyone who is rich and influential. Can
you explain?
Izzy
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