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One more try. If God has given these people over to a
reprobate mind, He has abandoned them. Jesus says the same thing
about the hogs and the dogs. He is talking about people who
cannot appreciate pearls or that which is Holy. That would hardly
describe the woman who came to Him, begging for far less . Hogs,
dogs, and perverts have two things in common. They have no
regard for the God that made them, and they live only to gratify
themselves .. If Jesus wept over them like He wept over
Jerusalem, I would be there every time the sodomites gathered, but He did
not. He abandoned them to their lust. They will never repent
because God will not trouble their conscience. They do not retain
God in their mind.
If your experience tells you otherwisw, you need to ask yourself,
"What is more reliable, my experience, or God's word?
Look at the Sodomites in Genesis. Even when struck blind,
their lust for sex with other men was unabated..
You will never, ever see me at a Sodomite gathering. That
would be disobedience on my part.
Terry
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Date: Wednesday,
November 19, 2003 08:09:26 PM
Subject: Re:
[TruthTalk] Reaching Out
Dear Sister:
I am not a diplomat, nor am I politically correct. I would like to
be
able to say this without hurting your feelings, but I do not have
the
ability to say it any other way. You are wrong, wrong, wrong.
Judy: Don't worry about hurting my feelings Terry, I would rather you
be
honest, it's OK if we disagree on some points.
God is saying do not give what is Holy to that person, and you
are
saying, "I know God did not really mean that.
Judy: No that is not what I am saying, but it is true that I
don't
believe God has said what you are saying. Jesus said not to give what
is
holy to dogs. Where did you get the idea that a 'dog' is a
homosexual.
A dog is someone outside the Covenant. Like the Syro Phonecian woman
who
had come to Jesus wanting healing for her child; He told her that
healing
was the children's bread. Children being those under the Covenant.
Hogs
and dogs have nothing to do with homosexuals so far as scripture
is
concerned.
He wants us to reach out to that person". God said, Don't steal,
I
assume you do not steal. He said, Don't covet. I assume that you do
not
covet.
Judy: I follow the Master as best I know how.
He said, Don't give what is Holy to those that are guilty of
this
particular sin and have no intention of changing.
Judy: Exactly where does he say this?
Get the picture now? All together now, repeat after me, " We will
not
reach out to sexual perverts because God said DO NOT." It is not
"There
but for the grace of God, go I." God's grace was available to them
and
they rejected it, repeatedly.
Judy: You can't possibly know that Terry. I know Romans 1
describes
those given over to a reprobate mind who indulge in this kind of
activity
but there are people who have been there who God has reached out to
and
whose minds have been renewed in His Word. It is impossible to know
who
has crossed the line of no return.
Want to love someone, witness to someone, save someone from Hell? Go
to
the local bar and save a drunk. Go to a county jail and save a
thief.
Go to a used car lot and save a liar. Go to church and save a
hypocrite.
Go to New York and save Hillary.
Judy: I can't save anyone Terry; the best I can do is walk after
the
Spirit with a sensitivity to needs and a willingness to love people
and
speak when the Lord shows me there is an openness.
There is no shortage of sinners. You can use up all the love you have
to
give and never reach out to a reprobate.
Think about that, please.
Judy: If you feel this way Terry then you must be totally against
going
to the gay rallies to evangelize with these t-shirts.
Grace and Peace,
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> Hi Terry:
> True, but we need to remember that "there, but for the grace of
God go
I"
> - that kind of sin has not been my problem but I have others and
then
we
> have the iniquities passed down generationally.
>
> Remember God is merciful and not willing for any to perish. We
may
hate
> what they do but we must reach out to the person whenever
possible in
> love rather than rejection because they know when we are
rejecting and
> disrespecting them.
> Jesus hated sin but loved the sinner - why can't we?
>
> Grace and Peace,
> Judy
>
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