> ## When I see a brother being hurt it angers me-but I cannot let that > lead me to sin. True Jesus does love sinners but not all sinners-If Esau > were present in the crowd-could I tell that crowd that God loves you all? > Didn't God say he hated Esau (Mal 1:2)? > > jt: It would be true to say that God loved them enough to send the best > He had to the cross to save them from His wrath. Esau was an old covenant > person who despised the blessing. God draws near to those who seek Him as > Jacob did. Since Esau despised the birthright God responded accordingly. > God did not initiate this Esau did.
Dean writes: True He is in the OT-and yes he did initiate the rift in his relationship with God but the Bible also uses him as an example in the NT. I would like to express my limited view of Gods word concerning Esau and why I brought him into this discussion. Romans 9:13-15 v.13 Jacob have I loved,but Esau have I hated. V.15 ...I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy,... God hated Esau to the point of not giving him mercy even though he sought it carefully with strong tears and crying-He wanted a place to repent and wasn't giving one.Esau was a worker of iniquity-which means that he worked at sin with all his might. He choose the pleasure of the flesh over the blessing of God(ie. the bowl of beans,fornication..basis lusts of the flesh) even thou he knew it was wrong. Hebrews 14-17 v.16 Lest there be any fornicator, or profane person,as Euau.who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright. v.17 For ye know how that afterwards,when he would have inherited the blessings,he was rejected:for he found no place of repentance,though he sought it carefully with tears Esau went too far into sin-and the fact that God used this as our example in the NT is too give us the same warning. This example clearly demonstrates to me that God must give a place for someone to repent or they cannot find God no matter how hard they try. Was God grace sufficient to cover Esau;s sin-No it was not- for God Himself wouldn't allow it. We must remember salvation is a contract between us and God-we sign it by repenting and confession Christ with a receiving heart (For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh Romans Chp 1) and even a work to a deeper justification (James 2:24) unto a deeper sanctification-even unto an entire sanctification (1 John 2:13). But the point is-lest I get too far ahead- If Esau was in the crowds that God allows me to preach too - I could not tell that crowd that God loves them all for it would be a lie. I believe that there are many Esau's in these crowds. So I tell them that the love of God is here in His word-lay down you sin and come and get it if you are able. While on this topic there was another man that sought God with strong tears and crying and was heard in that He feared God-His name was Jesus Christ. Hebrews 5:7...and was heard in that he feared; v.18 Though he were a son.. For me the half gospel of God the lover of all mankind fails to present the complete Gospel-Most that come that way don't completely understand what is required of them nor what they will have to endure-much hardship-and be hated by the whole world but the benefits of the hereafter and the blessing of knowing you are a son of God is fantastic Sister -I am sorry if I offended you concerning my laughter of Michael J.-But he sat himself up as a God and even mocked at sin-sleeping with children. God said he would bring the mighty low and lift up the humble and I rejoice that God has done this-but I agree that I should have more compassion on the lost-in that I stand corrected. Thank you for that correction. I would count it a honor to have you pray for my sonI and our relationship. I cannot give up God so he must give up sin-for our relationship to work.The sword is there between us. He has been shown the love of God and the wrath of God and I have allowed him to return to our home many times while getting him a job with me and spending alot of time with him-but he refuses to give up sin for God or me. But God is able. ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
