Kevin:
I would not say rich (in wives). LDS doctrine says
this is part of his exaltation and godhood, celestrial sex. Eternal lives is
eternal increase, more & more seed! In fact if you are not Married in the
Temple, there will be weeping wailing & gnashing of teeth!
D&C 132:19b-20a
jt: So it's married in the Temple or wind up in Sheol?
Kevin:
"exaltation and glory in all things, as hath been
sealed upon their heads, which glory shall be a fulness and a continuation of
the seeds forever and ever.
Then shall they be gods, because they have no end; therefore shall they be from
everlasting to everlasting, because they continue; then shall they be above all,
because all things are subject unto them. Then shall they be
gods"
jt: They'll be gods all right - in the netherworld. Apparently
what Jesus said about celestial marriage has been
overridden by Joseph Smith who obviously had no power himself and was also
ignorant of the power of God.
Kevin: In D&C 132:37 Abraham is counted righteous
for having concubines, that bore him children!
jt: I understand Abraham had two wives but not at the same
time.
Kevin: D&C 101 condemns having more than 1
wife
jt: How doubleminded and unstable can you get?
Kevin: Read at the General Assembly of August 17,
1835, and accepted as part of the Doctrine and Covenants. The article on
marriage appeared in 1835, 1844,45,46 editions until 1876, when it was quietly
removed & the Polygamous D&C 132 was added. This was printed for
years as a cover up, while many other denials went forth from the general
Authorities who secretly practised "plural marriage from at least the mid 1830's
on. The 1835 D&C 101 v1 states "we
believe that all marriages in this Church of Christ of Latter-day Saints should
be solemnized in a public meeting or feast" A PUBLIC Meeting? Not a secret temple ceremony?
DC 101 v2 'You both mutually agree to be
each other's companion, husband and wife, observing the legal rights belonging
to this condition: that is, keeping yourselves wholly for each other, and from
all others, during your lives?'
jt: Should be called the Church of the Latter day Lies... what a
mess...
Kevin: DC 101 v4 Inasmuch as this
Church of Christ has been reproached with the crime of fornication and polygamy, we declare that we believe that one man
should have one wife, and one woman but one husband, except in case of death,
when either is at liberty to marry again. Seeing as this was the accepted WORD OF THE LORD, the LAW for the church,
and the ONLY "RULE FOR MARRIAGE...PRACTISED IN THE CHURCH" TS 3 Oct 1842
Why did Joe break
this?
jt: God carried away by his own lust. Mormonism closely
follows Freemasonry in their temple rituals and Freemasonry is a reworking of
the old cult religions that have to do with the regenerative principle and they
are all taken up with putting their seed everywhere also, so I'm not surprised.
They just neglect to tell people about the curses that come with
it.
Kevin: D&C 42:22 Thou shalt alove thy wife with
all thy heart, and shalt cleave unto her and none else. D&C 49:16 Wherefore,
it is lawful that he should have one wife, and they twain shall be one flesh,
and all this that the cearth might answer the end of its creation;
JOE ENTERED IN BEFORE
EVEN LDS AUTHORITY WAS GIVEN. Even the wording of D&C 132 verse 52
"And let mine handmaid, Emma Smith, receive all those that have been given unto
my servant Joseph" uses the past tense,
commanding Emma to accept those Joe had enterered into. Emma by special command
was to have no other man verse 54 yet most of Joes first wives lived with their
other husbands.
Therefore Joe unlawfully had more than
one wife and was a FORNICATOR (D&C 101 verse 4).
jt: Some god for ppl to be
following. What a big, big, mess.
http://www.lavazone2.com/dbroadhu/PA/penn1820.htm#050134
Susquehanna Register May 1 1834 LEVI LEWIS states, that he has "been acquainted with Joseph Smith Jr. and Martin Harris, and that he has heard them both say, adultery was no crime. Harris said he did not blame Smith for his (Smith's) attempt to seduce Eliza Winters &c.;"
Susquehanna Register May 1 1834 LEVI LEWIS states, that he has "been acquainted with Joseph Smith Jr. and Martin Harris, and that he has heard them both say, adultery was no crime. Harris said he did not blame Smith for his (Smith's) attempt to seduce Eliza Winters &c.;"
jt: Great- looks like he led by example....
http://www.lavazone2.com/dbroadhu/UT/tribune1.htm#100675
SALT lAKE TRIBUNE Oct 6 1875 "SEALED" IN THE BARN ON A HAY MOW "the first well authenticated case of polygamy took place in which Joseph Smith was "sealed" to the hired girl. The "sealing" took place in a barn on the hay mow, and was witnessed by Mrs. Smith through a crack in the door!" Fanny, that "dirty little secret" was responsible for the rash of excommunications in 1838
SALT lAKE TRIBUNE Oct 6 1875 "SEALED" IN THE BARN ON A HAY MOW "the first well authenticated case of polygamy took place in which Joseph Smith was "sealed" to the hired girl. The "sealing" took place in a barn on the hay mow, and was witnessed by Mrs. Smith through a crack in the door!" Fanny, that "dirty little secret" was responsible for the rash of excommunications in 1838
jt: I don't guess the 'hired girl' had much to say about it.
The old pervert....
Kevin: HoC v3 p230 1838 Joe said "Was it for adultery
that we were assailed?" "Satan taking advantage of this, has perverted it into
LICENTIOUSNESS, such as a COMMUNITY OF WIVES, which is an abomination in the
sight of God."
We now know; in spite of Joe's protestations, there
really was just such a community, and even Joe said it was an ABOMINATION.
JOE TOOK OTHER MENS WIVES William Law's
wife stated in 1844 "Joseph had asked her to give him
half her love; she was at liberty to keep the other half for her
husband"
jt: Sounds like Joseph Smith was driven by lust. I have been reading about
his occult interests and treasure hunting. His father was into the same thing
but I had no idea he was such a womanizer.
Kevin: "A common misconception concerning Joseph
Smith's polyandry is that he participated in only one or two such unusual
unions. In fact, fully one-third of his plural wives, eleven of them, were
married civilly to other men when he married them. If one superimposes a
chronological perspective, one sees that of Smith's first twelve wives, nine
were polyandrous" Compton p 15-16
jt: So that adds the sins of greed and covetousness to that of
adultery and fornication.
Kevin: JoD v2 p 13 When the family organization was
revealed from heaven—the patriarchal order of God, and Joseph began, on the
right and on the left, to add to his family, what a quaking there was in Israel.
Says one brother to another, "Joseph says all covenants are done away, and none
are binding but the new covenants; now suppose Joseph should come and say he
wanted your wife, what would you say to that?" p14 What would a man of God say,
who felt aright, when Joseph asked him for his money? He would say, "Yes, and I
wish I had more to help to build up the kingdom of God." Or if he came and said,
I want your wife?" "O yes," he would say, "here she is; there are plenty
more."
jt: If they were stupid enough to stay with this crowd and let him
seduce their wives... it just boggles the mind...
Kevin: Joe encouraged his Polyandrous wives to stay
with their legal husbands, this provided good cover.
jt: And he didn't have to clothe or feed them, he satiated his own
lust free of charge.
Kevin: "Joseph was very free in his talk about his
women. He told me one day of a certain girl and remarked, that she had given him
more pleasure than any girl he had ever enjoyed. I
told him it was horrible to talk like this" Interview with William Law. March
30, 1887 Daily Tribune: Salt Lake City, July 31, 1887
Sidney Rigdon said "The leaders of the
church were monsters in human form; that Joseph was cut off for his
transgression, that Joseph Smith departed from the living God, and like David
and Solomon he contracted a whoring spirit and that
the Lord smote him off from the earth" Evans p 91
jt: Like Solomon who caused the kingdom to be split and who paid
eternally. David repented but he also paid dearly and so too did Joseph
Smith because God is no respecter of any man's person. Sin is
sin.
Kevin: Joe was a
fornicator, adulterer, bigamist, he enterered into polyandrous and polygynous
relations. The bible forbids a woman to have more than one man The bible
condemns marrying sisters or Mother & daughter. Joe tried it all, at 37
years old he had a 16 year old, he was a pervert. Those are the
facts.
jt: Shame, shame, shame, shame,
shame......
Kevin: BIGAMY The criminal offense of marrying one person while still legally married to another.
Kevin: BIGAMY The criminal offense of marrying one person while still legally married to another.
PLURAL MARRIAGE [In Mormon History terms it
not just more than one spouse, but Celestial marriage (or more than one wife)
through special permission, authority, sanction, vow, covenant and sometimes
command, by or on behalf of God. ]
POLYGAMY The condition or practice of having more than one spouse at one time. Technically this could mean more than one husband, but most people think it only means more than one wife. Some people inaccurately refer to bigamy as 2 wives and polygamy as 3 or more wives. Also referred to as plural or Celestial marriage by most Mormons, to refer to more than one wife.
POLYGYNY The condition or practice of having more than one wife at one time.
POLYGAMY The condition or practice of having more than one spouse at one time. Technically this could mean more than one husband, but most people think it only means more than one wife. Some people inaccurately refer to bigamy as 2 wives and polygamy as 3 or more wives. Also referred to as plural or Celestial marriage by most Mormons, to refer to more than one wife.
POLYGYNY The condition or practice of having more than one wife at one time.
POLYANDRY The condition or practice marrying or of
having more than one husband at one time. [See the story of Joseph
Smith, Adam Lightner and Mary Elizabeth Rollins. The majority of the early
marriages of Joseph Smith were of the polyandry type (8 of the first 11). ]
BIGAMY is a felony under Utah State Code 76-7-101.
Utah constitution prohibits Polygamous or Plural marriages
Utah constitution prohibits Polygamous or Plural marriages
A couple of the Church presidents were convicted of
unlawful cohabitation in the late 1800's
jt: No wonder there was no protection for Elizabeth Smart, she was a pretty girl born into a cesspool.
Judy
