Blaine: Rebuke, rebuke, rebuke rebuke, until I want to puke, ta ta ta de dum, put up your duke! I sure am hearing this rebuke word often, as if it is sort of officially the Christian Way. That is funny, I only remember Christ rebuking a few times. Most of what he did was teach. In fact, he was called Rabbi, which means TEACHER.
On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:34:01 -0500 "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > [Original Message] > > From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: 12/21/2003 5:57:47 PM > > Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Izzy -You are right. > > > > David Miller wrote: > > >> There is only one person that I had to ban from > > >> the list and that is because when he was rebuked > > >> by me, he did what he wanted anyway. Some people > > >> just like to flame others and make them mad. > > >> We don't allow that here. > > > > Dean wrote: > > > Was that Jim Webber? Was he sent from this list? > > > If not you might speak to him because he believes > > > he was banned from this list. > > > > No, it was not Jim Webber. Jim Webber has never been removed from > this > > list, nor has he been asked to leave. He is always welcome here > just > > like everybody else who keeps the no ad hominem argument rule. > Dean writes *: > Glad to hear that-I will contact him as see if he is free to chat. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- > ------------ > > Dean writes: > > > Are you not in a sense-separating the sin from the sinner? > > > David ask yourself this-What if the Spirit leads one of us > > > to rebuke a person for sin and you weaken that rebuke? What > > > happens to that person that the Lord sent the rebuke to create > > > fear in? Do you not think that this could very easily > > > cause you to struggle against God? > > > > Rebukes such as these should be done off the forum. It is much > more > > effective that way anyway. No need to grandstand before everyone > else > > when you issue your rebuke. Just write to them privately. Ask > them for > > their phone number and call them on the phone to communicate your > > rebuke. That would be even better. Or, ask them if you can come > visit > > them. In person would be the best way to communicate your rebuke. > Ask > > the Holy Spirit, Dean. He will tell you that what I am saying is > true. > Dean writes: > I can accept that and agree to it as it is within the confines of > the > bible-but will add that some rebukes is for others to see and > fear-but as > that seem to be related to the church-I have no problem with > complying to > these rules. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- > ----------------------- > > David Miller wrote: > > >> You have rebuked me for allowing non-Christians on the list. > > >> I have not censored you for that. I would like to see > > >> continued discussion about it. However, if you start railing > > >> at me and calling me an idiot and not really discussing the > > >> differences, then we will have a problem. > > > > Dean wrote: > > > No David-I rebuked you nor allowing them to spend a long > > > amount of time among the brethren-here on this list. > > > > Dean, that is the same thing as not allowing Christians here. > What do I > > say to someone like Dave? "Sorry, Dave, you have been real nice > and > > all, but we only allow Christians on the list and in my judgment > you are > > not one, so you have been banned from the list." > * How about -"Time up- Hope you find God-it's over, If you have a > problem > with doing this-give me the Moderator role for a day-I believe you > site > would grow as God has need of this type of site within His > guidelines of > course. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- > -------------------------- > > By the way, in your opinion, how long do we allow non-Christian > visitors > > before giving them the boot? > > *As in the age of accountability-that would be directly up to the > ability > of the person to understand-with clarity-what the message of the > gospel is. > You (as Moderator)of course would have to decide if that person has > been > giving that message to his understanding-which shouldn't be hard for > a > street preacher as we do that all the time on the street. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- > -------------------------------------------- > > Dean wrote: > > > I removed the rebuke after Ruben asked me to-I believe he did > > > this to create unity between the brethern-I do not think he > > > fully understood the reasons for the rebuke. I have felt that > > > I did wrong by removing the rebuke-and this has been an ongoing > > > > deep problem for me to deal with-as it won't go away. > > > > I believe that it won't go away because the Lord is dealing with > you to > > learn something here and you can't learn it if you don't press > the > > issue. By confronting this thing and dealing with it, some bit > of > > knowledge is going to find a place in your mind and suddenly you > will > > have understanding. You should not remove a rebuke (if that is > even > > possible) just because someone asks you too, but rather you > should > > repent of a rebuke falsely given with an understanding of why you > were > > wrong to give it. > > * I don't feel I did wrong by giving the rebuke -as it is in > agreement > with the Bible-but I do feel wrong that I backed off from the > rebuke-and > regret that decision due to it weakening the initial rebuke. Hey > Bro. I got > an idea -lets' keep going the way we are and its' bound to happen > again-and > wala-problem solved.And I promise not to weaken it down one bit. > (VBG) > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- > ------- > > > > Dean wrote: > > > When have I railed at you or called you an idiot? > > > What do you seek to make me out to be? A loud mouth > > > preacher that rails at people and calls them idiots? > > > > LOL. No, Dean, please read my statement again. I was trying to > say > > that if you did these things, then we would have a problem. We > don't > > have a problem because you have not done these things. You are > indeed > > discussing the issues and not resorting to ad hominem arguments. > > * Some debates get to extreme levels to weaken the words of others > by > making them appear foolish-which is no problem if they are foolish. > But > what happens if they are presenting the truth of God's word? Do you > see why > I asked? > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > Peace be with you. > > David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida. > > > > ---------- > > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that > you may > know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) > http://www.InnGlory.org > > > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email > to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you > have a > friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. > > > ---------- > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you > may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) > http://www.InnGlory.org > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. 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