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From: Charles Perry Locke
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Natural birth or baptism?
Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 13:31:00 -0700
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Actually, Izzy, I figured this out in my first response to DavidH last December when I first joined TT. I have been watching for the last 6 months to see if my initial impressions were correct...and they have been proven out several times since then.
Last December, being new to the group, DaveH posted that he wanted to learn how Protestants view the Trinity. He came across as genuine to me. I took his bait, and responded with a treatise on how Protestants view the trinity.
I was shocked to discover that his response was not one of someone who had just learned something that he had said he wanted to learn, or asked questions about parts he may not have understood. It was a full-on rebuttal from the LDS perspective of what I had written.
I fault myself for falling for the ploy. In my zeal as a newbie to be able to explain the Trinity to someone who seemed to genuinely want to learn I overlooked the statement that DaveH made that should have tipped me off. He said that he had been asking this question for three years, and no one had been able to explain it to him yet. Well, if he hasn't learned it in three years, he does not want to learn it. He only wants to argue about it.
Perry
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From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Natural birth or baptism? Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 22:01:27 -0500
Perry, Congratulations; you have finally figured out what I figured out LONG ago! You are quicker than most! Izzy
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From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
DAVEH: I have repeatedly explained why I am on TT, Perry. Do you not remember? I am here to learn what Protestants believe and why they believe that way. Do you have a problem with that?
Well, yes I do. And the problem I have is that the first time I communicated with you on TT, I took your bait and discovered that you were not at all interested in learning what protestants believe as you state. When someone describes to you what a protestant believes, usually at your request to do so, you never respond as though you have learned anything at all about what protestants believe, but only respond with a rebuttal, and why you believe it is false, and why protestants are wrong, and the LDS are right. If you truly wanted to learn, I would expect to hear something from you like "Oh,so that's why Protestants believe that way" instead of something like, "Now, here is why that is wrong...". I have never heard anything like the former, only like the latter.
Hey, it is great that you have a strong faith, but at least examine your motives and be honest about them. You do not really want to know what protestants believe. If you do, it is not to learn...it is to try to prove them wrong. I repeat, I have yet to see you indicate in any way that you have learned what you say you want to learn, and have seen only rebuttals to the way protestants believe. Maybe you can't (or don't want) to see it, but I'll bet (figuratively) that others on this forum can see it as well. (Most are just more polite than I am about it!)
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