Hi Kevin,

You are wrong and right--In the time of Jesus, the area was the land of
Judea, and Jerusalem was a city there in that land.  But you have to
remember, the Book of Mormon peoples left Jerusalem 600 years--repeat, 
600 YEARS-- before the time of Jesus.   Things were not the same THEN!   
So all your rantings about Jerusalem and Judea and etc are null and
void--have no meaning.  Sorry, but nice try.

Blaine

On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 16:09:03 -0800 Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> DAVEH:  My comments are in GREEN.......
> 
> Kevin Deegan wrote:
> 
> > All this for whether jesus was Born in Jerusalem Alma 7:10 or was 
> Born
> > in Bethlehem.NOTICE the BIBLE says "Bethlehem of JUDEA"NOTICE BOM
> > still says at the "LAND of Jerusalem" NO BIBLE HISTORY of a LAND 
> of
> > JerusalemBOTH Jerusalem & Bethlehem are in the land of Judea. This 
> is
> > the Land the Lord gave the Tribe of JUDAH.in Deut 34:12 the "land 
> of
> > Judah"There is no "tribe" of Jerusalem.The Bible talks of the 
> "land of
> > Israel" in 2 Chronicles 30:25 also lands of egypt, cannan, etc. 
> (The
> > bible is consistent in its use of city vs land)The Bible NEVER 
> says
> > "land of Jerusalem"But it does say "land of Judah AND IN 
> Jerusalem"
> > because Jerusalem is a CITY of JUDEA Jeremiah 7:342 Kings 23:24
> > Moreover the workers with familiar spirits, and the wizards, and 
> the
> > images, and the idols, and all the abominations that were spied in 
> the
> > land of Judah and in Jerusalem, did Josiah put away, that he might
> > perform the words of the law which were written in the book that
> > Hilkiah the priest found in the house of the LORD.Bethlehem is the
> > city in Judea where "Jesus was born in Bethlehem of JUDEA"  MT 
> 2:1When
> > the nation was split in 2 there was a northern Kingdom of Israel & 
> a
> > southern Kingdom of
> > Judahhttp://www.bartleby.com/65/ju/Judah-Kngdm.html So it is 
> painfully
> > clear the CITY of Jerusalem is IN the LAND of Judah! NO SECULAR
> > HISTORY of a LAND of JerusalemPontius Pilate was the govenor of 
> the
> > land of JudeaWho was govenor of the "land of Jerusalem"? Is this
> > FICTICIOUS "Land of Jerusalem" on one of the bible maps in your 
> BOM or
> > Bible?It is AMAZING the lengths you will go and the hoops will 
> will
> > jump thru here.It is a very clear error in the BOM. Joe missed 
> this
> > verse too. MT 2:6 And thou Bethlehem, in the land of Juda, art not 
> the
> > least among the princes of Juda: for out of thee shall come a
> > Governor, that shall rule my people Israel.
> >
> > So I RANT & RAVE and I am PREJUDICED and a DECEIVER.
> >
> > DAVID MILLER is this a personal attack?Extra slack depending on 
> who
> > you are?Dean gets a lecture, Blaine and Dave get a pass.
> > DAVEH:  Hey DavidM......If anybody is handing out "passes" here, 
> I'll
> > take a bunch!    :-)
> >
> >     And Kevin, don't blame Blaine for the private comments he made 
> to
> > me.  I take full responsibility for posting them when perhaps I
> > shouldn't have.  If you take them as a personal attack, I am sorry 
> and
> > apologize, as it was my doing....not Blaine's.
> >
> > However, in defense of myself, I did post Blaine's "rantings and
> > ravings" comment which to me seem pretty innocous.  But I don't 
> recall
> > posting anything (nor would I) saying you are "PREJUDICED and a
> > DECEIVER", even if you qualify. BLAINEsays:  but I looked this up 
> and
> > wanted to get it to TTr's lest Keven gain the upper hand in his
> > rantings and ravings about the passage I once quoted.
> > BYU.EDU FARMS
> > Jesus' Birthplace and the Phrase "Land of Jerusalem"
> 
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