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From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 7:42
PM
Subject: [TruthTalk] An open
question
>
> An open question to all TT'rs:
>
> Do you believe that upon our death we will remain, or will be immediately
> conscious, or do you believe that when we die we remain in a state of
> unconsciousness until some future time, possibly the resurrection, then we
> all become conscious at the same time, or near the same time? I am
> interested in hearing all opinions; Christian, LDS, Pagan (if TPW is still
> with us), and any others that may be lurking. I would also like to hear the
> reason for your belief. References would be helpful, too, if they helped you
> form your belief.
>
> Perry
> An open question to all TT'rs:
>
> Do you believe that upon our death we will remain, or will be immediately
> conscious, or do you believe that when we die we remain in a state of
> unconsciousness until some future time, possibly the resurrection, then we
> all become conscious at the same time, or near the same time? I am
> interested in hearing all opinions; Christian, LDS, Pagan (if TPW is still
> with us), and any others that may be lurking. I would also like to hear the
> reason for your belief. References would be helpful, too, if they helped you
> form your belief.
>
> Perry
I could do the usual thing and discuss scripture, and etc., and
from that alone I have a testimony of the resurrection of the dead, by
Jesus Christ as he conquered death on the cross. But I was first
converted to a belief in a conscious afterlife at elementary school age by none
other than my mother and my grandfather, as they related personal
experiences to me. I have since had experiences of my
own. Since they are personal, I prefer not to go into detail about
them.
However, I recall a man in whom I had much confidence tell of his
experience when he was very ill. He said he was in bed and
his spirit sat up (did not entirely leave his body), looked
around, then lay down again. He said he was totally conscious, and has not
feared death since.
Also,
I once asked some kids in a jr. high school class if they had
ever seen a ghost. I asked this because it was the eve of Halloween, we
had some time left at the end of class, and I thought it wouldn't hurt to spend
a moment or too talking about such things. I asked it half seriously
and half in jest, but one boy, an eighth grader, the quietest and most
serious kid in the class, shyly raised his hand, and related the following
"ghost story"
He said he
was at home, and had gone to the door leading to the stairs going
into the basement of his house. He was about to go downstairs when he
looked down at the foot of the stairs, and saw a pretty young woman dressed
in blue. She was walking/moving/gliding (?) across the room, but
her feet did not touch the ground. He said that her hair,
skin, etc, were all the same color of blue as her dress.
I later
asked his mother at a parent conference about the story, and she said as far as
she knew it was true, that she remembered him telling her about it. His
older sister was also in the school, and when I talked to her about it, she
told me it had happened when she (the sister) was ill, and that she had seen the
same (or similar) woman in her bedroom one
night.
The mother
told me she had asked an LDS Church authority what it might mean, and was told
the ghost was a spirit who undoubtedly had been assigned to watch over and
protect the family during a time of serious illness.
I definitely would not
want to see this story "debated." (:>) Discussed is
OK.
Blaine
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: [TruthTalk] spare not CRY ALOUD
> >Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 16:42:26 -0500
> >
> >Hi Terry:
> >This is an old one and you haven't been around in a while.
> >Are you still out there and if so - what kind of evidence would it take?
> >This is not an assumption but if you are of a certain 'religious' mindset
> >nothing I have learned from scripture would make much difference.
> >
> >Judy
> >
> >
> >From: "Terry Clifton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Judy:
> > > Not necessarily; a lot of ppl have trouble with demons including
> > > genuine believers.
> >
> >I doubt the accuracy of this statement. Can you supply biblical evidence
> >to
> >support this assumption? I cannot see the Holy Spirit sharing the same
> >house with a demon.
> >Terry
> >----------
> >"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may
> >know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6)
> >http://www.InnGlory.org
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> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: [TruthTalk] spare not CRY ALOUD
> >Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 16:42:26 -0500
> >
> >Hi Terry:
> >This is an old one and you haven't been around in a while.
> >Are you still out there and if so - what kind of evidence would it take?
> >This is not an assumption but if you are of a certain 'religious' mindset
> >nothing I have learned from scripture would make much difference.
> >
> >Judy
> >
> >
> >From: "Terry Clifton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Judy:
> > > Not necessarily; a lot of ppl have trouble with demons including
> > > genuine believers.
> >
> >I doubt the accuracy of this statement. Can you supply biblical evidence
> >to
> >support this assumption? I cannot see the Holy Spirit sharing the same
> >house with a demon.
> >Terry
> >----------
> >"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may
> >know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6)
> >http://www.InnGlory.org
> >
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