Oh! OK, Jesus said it so there's no argument here....
Does this mean DavidM has a point and that God ordains devils to preach the
gospel? Do you believe he was a devil before Satan entered into him at the last
supper?
From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Just saying he was a devil.
Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
JT:I have no problem with these scriptures Kevin, what are you saying? That Judas was not an apostle with the other 11, and that he did not go out preaching and healing with them?John 6:64 tells us that Jesus knew from the beginning who would betray him and John 6:66 says that there were many other disciples who left him. I believe that Hebrews 6:4-6 applies to Judas. He is one who knew the Lord, ministered under the anointing, and then turned away; but this does not prove that his doctrine was false while he was out there. Do you have a problem with this?From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Jn 6:70 Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?Act 1:21 That he may take part of this ministry and apostleship, from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place.
Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Judy wrote:
> He used Cyrus to get them out of Babylonian
> captivity, not to teach doctrine. That didn't
> come until they found a copy of the scriptures
> in what was left of the old temple and it was
> read to the people by Ezra the scribe.
Which is why I also brought up Judas Iscariot. God used Judas to teach
doctrine. Comments?
JT: Yes Judas was a genuine, chosen, and empowered apostle; he
was treasurer and a successful preacher and healer. I have no reason
to believe that he was anything other until late in his ministry when
he became a thief and an adversary.
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