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Blaine: I am not much of a scholar, Kevin old
buddy, but you seem to have a limited understanding of
very much beyond your favorite verses. You seem to speak
most often from the Traditional Christian point of view rather than from actual
scripture.
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 7:31
PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] DNA Evidence
Discourages Mormons
Your a bible scholar now? Blaine Borrowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 9:22
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] DNA Evidence
Discourages Mormons
Kevin wrote:
Did you finish Aesop's
yet?
Blaine: I guess that is your best shot for answers
to actual Bible scripture, which I seem to know better than you do,
huh Kevin?Blaine Borrowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 10:42
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] DNA Evidence
Discourages Mormons
> Blaine,
>
> The Mormon
shuffle, again, Blaine. The "other flock" happens to be the
>
gentiles. Do you have any supporting biblical evidence that states
> otherwise? You see, this is nothing more than one of the LDS
prooftexts I
> often complain about. This type of prooftexting
really slanders the Word and
> attempts to deceive those to whom
it is spewed.
Blaine: LOL!! What I hear you spewing is one
more of the traditional doctrines inculcated in Protestants without
biblical support, being the doctrines of men and not God.
The Bible says that the gospel was not taken to the Gentiles until
Peter received the revelation to do so. (Acts 10:28)
Christ never preached to the Gentiles. They NEVER heard his voice,
unless they happened to be around when he taught the House of
Israel--ONLY! As he said when a Canaanite woman (a gentile)
came begging him to heal her daughter, who was vexed with
devils: (Matt 15:
23-26)
But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and
besought him, saying, "send her away; for she crieth after
us." But he answered and said "I am not
sent but unto the lost sheep of the House of
Israel." Then came she and worshipped him, saying,
Lord, help me." He answered her, and said, "it is not
meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to the
dogs."
Of
course he had mercy on her and healed her daughter, but only because she
showed such great faith in him. This is the ONLY exception to the
rule he otherwise strictly adhered to throughout his
ministry. Can you show evidence
otherwise?
You see, there were Jews and Gentiles, from
the Jewish perspective. And, to
> whiom was Jesus speaking? Go
back to Jn 9:40 to see that. The Pharisees. And
> who did they
represent? The jews. And who was the "other flock"? That is,
>
who besides the Jews was the gospel given to? The gentiles.
Blaine: Eventually, the gospel was given to the
Gentiles, but only after the Lord expired on the cross, and the
revelation was given to Peter to do so. The Gentiles never
heard the Lord Preach--yet he says, Other sheep I have which are
not of this fold, and them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice . .
.
He was
revealing his determination to seek out the lost tribes of Israel as
they were then scattered throughout the world--in Ireland, in England,
on the isles of the sea, and in the Americas!! The Hawaaians
called him LONO, the Hopi called him the Lost White Brother, Pahana--the
Mayans called him Quetzalcoatl, the Aztecs called him Viracocha, etc,
etc, I could show many references for this phenomenon. In all
cases he was described as being a tall white man with a beard who was
reverenced by those who met him. He promised to return in the
future and bring world peace and prosperity. The Hopis had even
been taught certain handshakes with which to identify him when he
returned. (More about this later). Get on
Google. Read about Captain Cook's experiences among the Pacific
Islanders, read about the Spanish Conquistadors when they entered
Mexico, read! ! about Easter Island and the stone statues,
read The Kon Tiki Expedition, by Thor Hyerdahl. Read
The Hopi by (I will have to find this book around the house for
the author), read, Tales of the Seven Seas (likewise, for
the author). I am serious and sincere. You have
been led astray long enough. I think it is time the truth got told
about what has been going on in the world outside the dogmas of the
Protestant tradition.
>
> Kevin, you can stop weeping now...I solved the
"mystery". LOL
>
Perry
>
No, don't wipe
the tears away yet, Kevin. I have just begun...to enlighten your
darkened mind. LOL Blaine
> > > >From:
"Blaine Borrowman" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] DNA Evidence
Discourages Mormons
> >Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 21:12:01
-0700
> >
> >Blaine: Read this Kevin, and
weep: What about the passage in your dearly
> >beloved
Bible, that says, (Jesus speaking)
> >
> >"And other
sheep I have , which are not of this fold: them also I must
> >bring, and they shall hear my voi! ! ce, and there shall be
one fold, and one
> >shepherd. " (John 10:16)
>
> Care to comment on what Jesus was talking
about?
> > Blaine
> >
>
> -
> >
> > ---- Original
Message -----
> > From: Kevin Deegan
>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 7:23
PM
> > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] DNA Evidence
Discourages Mormons
> >
> >
> >
Were you reading Aesops again?
> >
> >
Blaine Borrowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Blaine:
Someho! ! w I imagined you as being a very hairy, dark and
>
>loathsome Italian type, with an oily skin and a bad case of
acne, Kevin.
> >(:>) I am surprised you have no
beard, and even more surprised you are
> >fair enough to have
freckles, like myself. But read the book of Genesis,
>
>and you will see that Jacob was pretty much hairless, while his twin
> >brother Esau was very hairy. Ring a bell? Not
all Jews are hairy, huh?
> >IN fact, I happen to know a
Jew, Victor was his first name, who had no
> >beard at
all--at least not when we were 18 yrs old and in Basic training in
> >the USAF. He had dark hair, and a very clear,
peachy complexion. The BoM
> >describes Mary, the mother
of Jesus, as being white and fair above all
> >women--probably
a beautiful blonde, or a very fair redhead. Many Jews are
>
>not only ! ! white, but have blonde hair and even freckles.
You have to
> >remember that th! e BoM people who came from
Jerusalem in 600 BC were a
> >small select group. They
may not have been typical dark, hairy fellows
> >like many
Jews we see in New York, or crying at the wailing wall. Barbara
> >Streasand is a very fair Jew, as are others I have
seen--Danny Kay for
> >another. Jesus was supposedly
described as having blue eyes and reddish
> >blonde
hair.
> >
> > But, as to the
American Indian, it is plainly evident he has much
> >oriental
blood in him. That seems undeniable. Yet, in many other
ways, he
> >seems to have something else--he seems to have a
heritage based upon a
> >totally different religious outlook.
When the White man first arrived in
> >the Americas, most
Indian Tribes seemed totally unfamiliar with! ! the concept
>
>of property and land ownership--this is in keeping with the BoM
record that
> >they lived the United Order--had all things in
common--for at least three
> >generations after being visited
by Jesus Christ.
> >
> > Which
reminds me, how do you account for the many legends among the
> >Indian tribes of both North and South America of being
visited by a White
> >God? The Hopi called him the Lost
White Brother, Pahana. The Aztecs
> >called him
Viracocha, and the and Mayans called him Quetzalcoatl. This is
> >also true of the Hawaiians, who called him Lono, and other
Pacific
> >Islanders had other names for him. You cannot
ignore this--it does not
> >smack of a cultural heritage like
any Oriental peoples I ever heard of.
> >You keep
harping on my not answering some of your trap-type questions, ! ! how
> >about this?
> > "
>
>
> > ----- Original Message
-----
> > From: Kevin
Deegan
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, March
05, 2004 7:06 PM
> >
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] DNA Evidence Discourages Mormons
>
>
> >
> >
Blaine I need some advice I have a lot of freckles, I suppose that
> >comes from my Irish heritage. I also have very fine hair
and can not grow a
> >THICK THICK Beard. I noticed that Jews
have NO PROBLEM growing beards. My
> >beard problem probably
stems from some American Indian herita! ! ge in my
> >family
tree. I find that ALL INDIANS have pitiful beards. It is laughable
> >like 4 scraggly hairs on the chin.
>
> Do you know of ANY Indians that
can grow thick beards?
> >
Picture in your mind a cherokee with a Full beard it is so wierd it
> >is funny.
> >
What other groups or races have this problem?
>
> I guess you really do not need
a PHD in Biology to figure out that
> >Indians are NOT
Descendants of Jews!
> >
The BoM has it all wrong and is a false history.
>
> Blaine Borrowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> >
Blaine: The Indian languages all show traces of Hebrew, but are
> >otherwise very different--what does that prove? Just
that 2500 yrs have
> >gone by, and languages change at a
rapid pace. The same with genetic
> >similarities. It is
called genetic drift. Ho hum.
> >
>
> Now let's consider
the effects of genetic drift on a population.
> >
>
> In the short term,
over a few generations, we would expect allele
> >frequencies
to increase and decrease in a random, unpredictable way, as a
>
>result of genetic drift.
> >
>
> In the longer term,
the main result of genetic drift is loss of
> >genetic
variation. This occurs because over time, at ran! ! dom, there will be
> >a generation in which one allele (which has become rare by
chance) will not
> >get passed at all to the next generation.
Given enough time, this will
> >always be the effect of
genetic drift -- by chance, alleles will be lost.
> >The
smaller the population, since genetic drift has a stronger effect in
> >small populations, the more quickly genetic variation will
be lost.
> >
>
> Genetic drift also
results in different populations becoming
> >genetically
different from each other because by chance, different alleles
>
>will become fixed in different populations.
> >
>
> -----
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>
> From:
Kevin Deegan
>
> To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent:
Thursday, March 04, 2004 1:14 PM
>
>
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] DNA Evidence Discourages Mormons
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>
> >
>
> NO
COMMENT!
> >
>
> Judy
Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
Are you Mormon boys aware of this?
> >
>
>
MORMONS LEAVE BECAUSE OF DNA
>
>
The following is from Calvary Contender, March 2004: "Recent
>
>DNA evidence questioning the accuracy of Mormon history is providing
an
> >open door to evangelism of Mormons. The Book of Mormon
describes how
> >Israelites emigrated to the Americas 2,600
years ago, with the now extinct
> >Lamanites and Nephites
becoming the ancestors of American Indians. But
>
>anthropologists say there is no match of Jewish DNA with that of
American
> >Indians. An inaccurate Book of Mormon creates
questions about the
> >foundation of Mormon teaching (2/04
Christianity Today). Reportedly about
> >300 people have left
Mormonism partly because of evidence presented from
>
>interviewing eight scientists including a Mor! ! mon
scholar."
> >
> >
> >
> >
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