Re: [TruthTalk] UNSTABLE CHOOSE NOT TO GET IT

[Kevin Deegan]

The UNSTABLE have ONE problem they can not tell TRUTH from ERROR.

James 1:8 A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.

 

Like the "Witnesses" of the book of Mormon, these fellas go from one cult to another, never quite finding the TRUTH.

 

For example Martin Harris:

 One of the witnesses to the Book of Mormon, yielded to the Spirit and temptation of the devil a number of years ago--turned against Joseph Smith and became his bitter enemy. He was filled with the rage and madness of a demon. One day he would be one thing, and another day another thing. He soon became partially deranged or shattered, as many believed, flying from one thing to another. .. . In one of his fits of monomania, he went and joined the"Shakers" or followers of Anna Lee. . . . but since Strang has made his entry . . . Martin leaves the "Shakers," whom he knows to be right, . . . and joins Strang. . . . We understand that he is appointed a mission to this country, . . . if the Saints wish to know what the Lord hath said to him they may turn to. . . the Book of Doctrine and Covenants, and the person there called a"wicked man" is no other than Martin Harris . . . Elder Wheelock will remember that evil men, like Harris, out of the evil treasure of their hearts bring forth evil things. . . . Just as our paper was going to press, we learned that Martin Harris, about whom we have written in another article, had landed in Liverpool, . . . there was a strangeness about him, and about one or two who came with him . . . A lying deceptive spirit attends them, and has from the beginning. . . . they know that they are of their father, the devil, who was a liar from the beginning, and abode not in the truth Latter-Day Saints' Millennial Star, vol. 8, pp.124-28

"The foregoing tendencies explain the spiritual wanderlust that afflicted the solitary witness at Kirtland. In this period of his life he changed his religious position eight times, including a rebaptism by a Nauvoo missionary in 1842. Every affiliation of Martin Harris was with some Mormon group, except when he was affiliated with the Shaker belief, a position not basically contrary to his Book of Mormon testimony because the foundation of that movement was acceptance of personal revelation from heavenly beings"  Improvement Era, March 1969, p.63

"There are in this place all kinds of teaching; Martin Harris is a firm believer in Shakerism, says his testimony is greater than it was of the Book of Mormon" "Martin Harris--Witness and Benefactor to the Book of Mormon," 1955, p.52 Wayne Cutler Gunnell

A Sure sign of this unstable crowd is that they are Scripture Twisters!

2 Pt 3:16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

That pompous soul who comes to your door for the purpose of giving you their

"truth' and, after being rebuffed gives a testimony on how they've suffered for the

sake of the Gospel. Some folks just don't get it I guess.

Subject: [TruthTalk] POLYANYI Spirit of OBTUSE vs Spirit of Truth

JUDY SAYS Careful Kevin you touch their idol and you will be relegated with me and my Shirley Temple curls - along with the scowl, concordance, and topical Bible :>) You'll have the Epicureans and the LDS on your case.... but you can count it joy  to suffer for the sake of the Lord so it's not all doom and gloom and Moses made  the same choice - in by faith giving up all the knowledge of Egypt choosing to  suffer with God's people rather than enjoy the pleasures of sin for a season  (Hebrews 11:24-27)

 

From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

The Truth has been THROUGHLY MANIFESTED w/o Polygymy or Polyanyi in SIMPLICITY!

2 Co 11 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him. For I suppose I was not a whit behind the very chiefest apostles. But though I be rude in speech, yet not in knowledge; but we have been throughly made manifest among you in all things.

2 Co 1 For our rejoicing is this, the testimony of our conscience, that in simplicity and godly sincerity, not with fleshly wisdom, but by the grace of God, we have had our conversation in the world, and more abundantly to you-ward. For we write none other things unto you, than what ye read or acknowledge; and I trust ye shall acknowledge even to the end;

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Michael Polanyi's ... ideas are based  on the belief that all knowledge is either tacit (silent and unspoken) or rooted  in tacit knowledge.

VINCE SAYS  I never heard of Polanyi until this forum introduced me to his name, however, never fearing to rush in where angels fear to tread, I'll say that the short and presumably accurate sentence above makes little red flags go up in my little pea brain. There's nothing there referring knowledge to God or saying that real knowledge is rooted in God and His revelation. I suspect that, if the summary above is correct, Polanyi's logic eventually leads us to "nobody's grasp of reality is any better than anybody else's grasp of reality, therefore nobody's knowledge is any better than another's knowledge." If Polanyi uses this to conclude that the poor certitude of our own knowledge is a good reason to root ourselves in Christ, then he must have been a wise man. On the other hand, if he uses this to promote moral relativism and ecumenism, then he had no wisdom at all.

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