[TruthTalk] God in our unconscious

[Judy Taylor]

Very sad Izzy, Sounds like praying all day did you not one bit of good because you are certainly no sweeter for the experience. Are you aware that God does not hear ppl who hold ought against their brother? I would say that this is one BIG OUGHT. You have built a thick wall of protection around yourself but I am only flesh and blood and hey, you have a delete key same as me.  If I don't like some things ppl write on TT I use that.  I can't promise you anything other than that you won't get any more attention from me than anyone else on TT so long as I'm here. I address issues, I don't attack persons.   This is a public list and you are choosing to be here, so forget the stalking idea (where is that from? Are you aware that feelings are not always divine?).  As for me, I am what I am by the grace of God and I'm sorry that so far this does not meet your expectation but I'm still under construction so there is hope.  I've done everything I know to do so far.  Are you without sin Izzy?  judyt     From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Judy,   This is the last time I am writing back to you.  I have no recollection of you sending me an email offline in December. Sorry if that bothers you. I did look at the last statement I emailed to you on 12/22/03 before I left TT which was: “Since you don’t seem to be happy unless I am ensnared in your pointless bickering, you will have to enjoy your “grace and peace” without me.”     I wrote to you yesterday that I find you to be impossibly contentious. I failed to add that I also find you to be terribly controlling and meddlesome.  (I honestly don’t mind if you have those qualities, as long as you do not impose them on me, personally.) To answer your question, “THAT IS THE PROBLEM.”  I am only angry when you won’t leave me alone. You make me feel like I am being stalked.   So please do both of us a favor: Don’t talk about me or to me, either on-line or off-line, and please stay out of my conversations. That way we won’t bother each other, and I can enjoy TT without feeling harassed to the point of leaving.  I enjoyed many friends on TT for many years before you arrived, and I would prefer to stay a while longer.   I am sure you have many wonderful qualities, most of which elude me. I am sure that is my failing and not yours. May God bless you richly, and fulfill your every heart’s desire. I hate confrontations, and this has been quite a growth experience for me.  Thanks very much.   Izzy   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy Taylor Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 9:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [TruthTalk] God in our unconscious   From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Judy, Since you are slandering me publicly, I must state I have NO IDEA what “issue” you are referring to.  If there is something you are feeling guilty about from “the past”, please be assured that I don’t even remember it.    jt: Normal ppl are not hostile as you are toward me without a reason. I believe this goes back to sometime before Christmas when I asked you not to interject 'cute one-liners' in emails between me and the Mormon boys. I was new to the list at the time and so didn't know what you had learned already. As you are aware I have written to you off-line to apologize in the event that my request was offensive and received no response from you.   Izzy: I would appreciate it if you would make your disparaging remarks about me off-line.  Thank you, again. Izzy.   jt: I've already done the off-line thing Izzy;  scripture teaches that when we go to the altar to pray and we know a brother or sister has something against us to go to that one which is what I did.  However just recently you wrote:   "I find you to be impossibly contentious. Therefore I do not enjoy interacting with you. In fact, I’d rather spend the day eating worms. I appreciate your acute willingness to offer your opinion and advice, but please rest assured that I will ask for it if I want it"   jt:  I don't always agree with you and others but it's not my heart to be 'contentious' for contention' sake. This list is called Truth Talk isn't it?  I find the above sarcastic and mean spirited which is hardly Christian Love I am not angry with you.  You are the one with the anger so if I am wrong then what IS the problem? You recently posted an email that addressed both BillT and myself.    I think this is what Izzy was talking about.   She used the party scenario.     jt: No Izzy has an issue that goes back a long..... time    Surely you don't accept Izzy's pronouncement about him. She is cryptic and critical