Good stuff, Perry. I'm sure the accuser/s will answer your questions.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 2:28 PM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] M Scott Peck a Christian LOL > TT'rs, > > Could it be possible that Scott Peck and his writings have a purpose in > the world outside of bringing people to Christ? > > In the early 80's I was reading Peck's "The Road Less Traveled". It was > instrumental in my growth as an individual, and helped to place me on a path > of peace, tolerance, understanding, and others awareness. At that time I was > not a Christian, but a seeker. > > 10 years later I became a Christian and, if it was not for the changes > made in my life that I underwent in the early 80's, at least in part > assisted by Scott peck's book, I might not have ever found Christ (or, maybe > I would not have ever let Him find me!) > > Would I have sought Christ without Scott peck's help? Would I have let > Him seek me without Scott Peck's help? Only God truly knows. But, I do know > that Peck's book was instrumental in turning me from an inward position, > focused on self, to an outward position, focused on others. Without this > turn, I may never have been able to recognize the movement of the Spirit > within me. > > Perry > > >From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: [TruthTalk] M Scott Peck a Christian LOL > >Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 08:49:18 -0500 > > > >Now how could anyone in their right mind take what this man writes > >seriously? He is obviously confused and most definitely does not know > >the Lord. > > > >Claims to have been a Christian for 13yrs - with a nun as spiritual > >adviser? > >Says he was accosted by an evil spirit but identifies it as a "good evil > >spirit" > >Yeah right! "Hath God said?" This guy could sell snow cones in Alaska... > >reminds me of witches who claim there is black magic and white magic. > > > >"A doubleminded man is unstable in all his ways [....] let not that man > >think > >that he shall receive anything of the Lord" Peck has no idea what sin is > >or > >what Christianity is for that matter so what spiritual insight of his > >could be > >ov value? It's all from the wrong kingdom. > > > >From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >"Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but > >inwardly they are ravening wolves," (Matthew 7:15). > >The following is a interview with M Scott Peck: > >"Door: It is interesting that you describe your writing as a calling. Is > >this a calling from God? > >"Peck: I hesitate using the word `God' in that simplistic kind of way. My > >books are not `channeled' materials.... > >"Door: There are a number of writers and others who are convinced that > >you are part of the New Age Movement. > >"Peck: Really? Well, we can come back to that subject if you'd like.... > >My spiritual director, who is a nun, says that God never calls you to do > >something that doesn't feel right in your heart. Jesus went to the cross, > >which wasn't something He felt like doing, but the cross felt much better > >than the only alternative which was to retire on His pension plan.... > >"Door: When we interviewed you last, you had become a Christian three > >years previously. Now that it has been 10 years, could you comment on how > >your own personal faith has changed over the decade? > >"Peck: I don't like the term `became a Christian.' ...I hope to God that > >I'm going to continue to be converted until I die and perhaps well after > >that, which is what I think purgatory is all about.... > >"Door: Why do we have this feeling of impending doom? > >"Peck: God knows when I'll ever write about this, so you might as well > >write about it. > >"Door: Uh - thanks. > >"Peck: I have had some dealings with evil spirits, but I have never given > >any thought to possibility of good spirits. One night while I was in the > >midst of my depression, my Dark Night of the Senses, I went to bed. I had > >not fallen asleep and this was not a dream. I was accosted by a spirit. > >"Door: A spirit? > >"Peck: ...Almost as instantly, I asked what kind of spirit this was and I > >immediately knew it was a good spirit rather than a bad spirit. But I > >also knew I could either confront this spirit or shake it off. I wondered > >what kind of good spirit it was. The answer came to me immediately. It > >was a spirit of mirth. > >"Door: A spirit of mirth? > >"Peck: That was when the battle began. Just because this seemed to be a > >spirit of mirth, how did I know for sure? If I let it in - > >"Door: - You mean like a possession or something? > >"Peck: Yes.... So I gave in to this spirit and I giggled myself to sleep. > >"Door: Since we are talking about the bizarre, we hear a lot of people - > >who act like they know what they're talking about - claiming that you are > >`New Age.' What are your feelings about the New Age Movement? > >"Peck: I am and I am not New Age. ...there are some things about the New > >Age Movement that are very godly, and some things that are potentially > >evil. > >"Door: What is it that you like about the New Age Movement? > >"Peck: I wouldn't use the word `like.' The New Age Movement is a reaction > >to the sins of the Christian Church, the sins of technology, and the > >excesses of science. > >"Door: What sins? > >"Peck: ...Computers. > >"Door: Computers? > >"Peck: ...These sins are very real. I think there is something > >potentially holy about the New Age movement because of their openness to > >new ideas.... The New Age Movement, in reaction to the sins of the > >Christian Church, moved to the East - to Oriental philosophy and theology > >- and attempted to throw all of Christian theology out," > >(Interview, May/June 1990, pp. 5-15). > > > > > >ShieldsFamily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Bill, In later books Peck makes it clear that when he wrote The Road > >Less Traveled he was just about to come to know the Lord. He wasnt > >quite there yet, but very close. (Amazing how much wisdom he wrote at > >that point, before knowing Christ personally). I was just wondering if > >Pecks unconscious is the same as your spiritual instinct.. Izzy > > > > > > > > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wm. Taylor > >Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 8:50 AM > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] God in our unconscious > > > >"Then he goes on to explain that this is what we term the presence of the > >Holy Spirit." > > > >Izzy, I am not familiar enough with Peck to have much more than an > >elementary appreciation for what he is saying. If he goes on to nuance > >his words and attach them to a biblical-language type indwelling of the > >Holy Spirit, I would be able to say, Oh I get it. Right on. As they > >appear in this short quote, if I were being brutally honest and > >forthcoming, I would have to say that his words move me closer to a > >feeling of pantheism than I am happy going. Again, though, before I > >should want to conclude that this is indeed what he is doing or saying, I > >would want to know how he nuances this language with Scripture. Is that > >okay? > > > >Bill > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: ShieldsFamily > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 6:53 AM > >Subject: [TruthTalk] God in our unconscious > > > >Bill, > > > >The picture you drew about Gods beauty brought tears to my eyesso true! > >What do you think of M. Scott Pecks words in The Road Less > >Traveled?--- > > > >If you want to know the closest place to look for grace, it is within > >yourself. If you desire wisdom greater than your own, you can find it > >inside you. What this suggests is that the interface between God and man > >is at least in part the interface between our unconscious and our > >conscious. To put it plainly, our unconscious is God. God within us. We > >were part of God all the time. God has been with us all along is now, and > >always will be. Then he goes on to explain that this is what we term > >the presence of the Holy Spirit. > > > >Izzy > > > > > > > > > > > >Think with me for a moment about instinct, things that we know but cannot > >explain. How does a baby know to suck upon her mother's breast? How do we > >know to close our eyes when something is hurled at us? How do we know > >when we've seenthe beauty of a sunset or a rose or a bably calf running > >in the springtime with its head down and its tail straight up behind it, > >that God is wonderful, that God is beautiful, that God is good, that God > >is love? How do we know that a thought is placed in our mind by God and > >did not originate from within us? These instinctive-type disclosers are > >relational, I believe, because we are created in the image of a > >relational God, a Triune God who is One by way of relationship between > >Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. > > > >When I think about defining "relationship" with the Lord, I want to leave > >room in my explanation for these theological instincts, awarenesses of > >God in the presence of which I can only marvel. I also want tobe humble > >enough to remember that I know more than I can say. Relationship is > >fellowship with the Father through Jesus Christ in the Holy Spirit. It is > >participation in the Truth, the Creator of reality -- Existence himself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Do you Yahoo!? > >Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. 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