SURE, I WILL EXPAND. I THOUGHT YOU GUYS WERE ALL CHRISTIANS, AND HAD WORKED OUT THESE SIMPLE PRELIMINARIES, AS I DO NOT ATTEND TO THIS LIST OFT, AND DO NOT KNOW THE COMPOSITION OF SUCH.
TAKE WHAT DAVID WROTE RE "HOLINESS" , PLUS ADD:
1. DOES THE HOLY SPIRIT DO A PERFECT WORK, OR, JUST HALF-BAKED? PERFECT.
2. DID JESUS DIE TO LEAVE US IN THE SAME SINNER STATE? NO. HE MADE "NEW CREATIONS".
3. ADD JUST A DOSE OF SCRIPTURE MORE, BEYOND PETER'S "BE YE THEREFORE PERFECT" , AND WHAT DAVID GLEANED FROM ROMANS AND FIRST JOHN.
4. "HE WILL NOT LET YOU BE TEMPTED BEYOND WHAT YOU CAN BEAR...HE WILL ALSO PROVIDE A WAY OUT , SO YOU CAN STAND UP TO TEMPTATION."
---I CORINTH. 10:13
--------OLD MAN ELSMANSTEIN, THE LAWYER
P.S. LIFE IS A FIGHT , & PAUL USED THAT LANGUAGE. IT IS CONSTANT SPIRITUAL WARFARE, BUT IT DOES CEASE SOMEWHAT WHEN YOU "DIE TO SELF" IN THE COLOSSIANS 3 SENSE. IF THERE IS NO MORE EGOTISTICAL "YOU", THERE IS NOTHING FOR THE DEVIL AND WORLD TO ATTACK!!!! ERGO, YOU ARE A SAINT AT PEACE.
FRANKLY, THE DIFFERENCE IS HELL ITSELF. I CORINTH. 15:1-4 MAKES CLEAR THAT YOU CAN "BELIEVE IN VAIN", IF YOU DON'T KEEP THE "DEATH , BURIAL AND RESURRECTION IN MEMORY". JUST ABOUT EVERY BOOK IN THE N.T. SAYS YOU CAN LOSE YOUR SALVATION.
THUS, THIS IS FAIR WARNING TO THE "ETERNAL SECURITY" CROWD, IF ANY THERE BE OUT THERE.
In a message dated 4/1/2004 2:24:59 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Elsman, I'm no theologian so you gonna' have to 'splain it simply. Lance
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: April 01, 2004 14:08
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Covenant versus Contract--SAINTS, NOT SINNERS
THIS WORRIES ME. WHAT DAVID MILLER WROTE BELOW CANNOT BE SUBSTANTIALLY IMPROVED UPON. I VERY SELDOM AGREE WITH DAVID MILLER. BECAUSE THE SUBJECT IS SO GRAVE, I WOULD SUGGEST YOU PRINT- OUT WHAT DAVID WROTE AND TAPE IT TO YOUR "REFRIGERATOR", AS THE IMPORT IS SO MAJOR THAT IT MAY MAKE A NEW MAN OUT OF YOU, AND/OR SEND YOU SKIPPING DOWN THE STREET. (WOMEN INCLUDED IN THE GENERIC ABOVE.)
AFTER ALL, YOU EITHER BELIEVE THAT YOU ARE A "NEW CREATION' PER II CORINTH. 5, OR NOT. CHRISTIANS ARE "SAINTS"; DON'T EVER CALL YOURSELVES "SINNERS". WE HAVE SOMETHING BETTER TO TELL THE WORLD THAN THAT PEOPLE CAN STAY IN THEIR SAME STATE!!
-----ELSMAN, THE LAWYER
P.S.
THE ABOVE DOES NOT MEAN THAT YOU WILL NOT BE ATTACKED BY THE
