Given the time and attention being given to HH I'm guessing that it's appropriate that we're about to hear DM's reflections on HT (Holy Thomas F. Torrance). I once had a person walk in asking for "books by dead holy guys" (he didn't trust live ones). 
It does amuse me somewhat given the vitriolic responses to the very mention of those from whom  we learned that nary a peep has been offered over this love/hate fest over dearly(?) departed HH.Are you folks part of a cult? Have we been duped? Chuckle Lance 
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Sent: May 04, 2004 12:58
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Holy Hubert Lindsey DavidM

In a message dated 5/4/2004 5:32:25 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Hubert is going to be a tough one to learn about.  He did not build a
personal empire like many ministers.  He was not a writer like those who
have left us a legacy.  Although he earned a Ph.D., he never flaunted it
and nobody I knew called him Doctor Lindsey.  He was just Hubert.  He
was like the apostles of Christ who went down in history without us
knowing much of what they did, those apostles who left us no writings,
like Andrew, Philip, Bartholomew, Lebbaeus, and Simon Zelotes.  His
testimony was his life, and it greatly touched those who were blessed to
have encountered him.


In fact, I cannot find any sites putting out Hubert propaganda that is not a for-profit enterprise.  DavidM, you need to understand that I am very much opposed to anyone who practices his faith in the Elsman and Danny fashion.   They may be good guys.  They might even get things done for the Lord.   but I sure that some in the first century could say the same for Alexander the copper smith.   Hubert, with what little an unbiased observer can discover,  is somewhat the forefather to all this thuggery (and I speak specifically of Elsman and his crew).  And now, you admit there is precious little out there that would help those of us who really would like to know. 
Mordecai Ham was likewise a very abusive preacher -- even for his day and time.   But, at least, there is information about him that is dependable.   I don't expect to find material written by Lindsey nearly so much as I expect to find third party material written about a man who spoke like Ham (your admission) but was accepted by the Roman church, converted thousands of hippies, brought 40,000 Jews to the Lord and whose ministry was used by Gilly Graham. 


John   

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