[TruthTalk] Shabbat COVERING OF FEMALE HEADS?

[Judy Taylor]

How ironic - the the pot calls the kettle black.  Elsman you are knit picking about rebellious women and head coverings when the example you have set on TT has been arrogance and rebellion personified.  I have seen the moderater and others ask you to tone down the rhetoric and not to write in such large print.  The listowner (who you constantly ridicule) went to some trouble to explain how much more bandwidth these kind of posts use and how we should be considerate of others (those whose mailboxes fill quickly).  He has been ignored (and you are one of the main offenders) - not that I'm completely innocent in this area myself.

 

Do you realize that when you dismiss women you are negating more than half of the Church of the Lord Jesus Christ?  When Jesus ascended and sent the promise along with spiritual  and ministry giftings he didn't categorize these "for men ONLY" they were sent to the Church.  What if Jesus chooses to prophesy through a woman, should she resist in fear, or run to get her head covering? Are tongues only for the men since they can talk?  Were any women in the Upper Room on the day of Pentecost?  Did they have doilies on their heads?    

 

Hubert Lindsey sounds insane (in the sense of being doubleminded) and full of fear. Why didn't he trust Jesus (as head of the Church) to be Lord over the people he was trying to pastor?  There is just ONE mediator between God and man and he doesn't set up a "one man band."   I read Hubert's book a while back and I don't believe he ever overcame the harshness of his childhood;  he certainly had a heart for the downtrodden and the underdog, but then so do Australians; they love to expose clay feet and lift up the underdog.  Hubert was not the whole loaf.  He was not able to nurture the women in his life and from what you write he was accountable to noone else in the body of Christ.

 

There are/were social reasons for Paul writing as he did against women speaking publicly and head coverings. They were relevant to first century Corinth and Ephesus but are obsolete today.  The New Testament is not a rule book and the apostle Paul did not demean or put down women, some of them worked with him in ministry.  Today women read, and are permitted to be as educated as men - The gifts and callings of God are for the whole Church not just a part and in Christ there is no male, female, bond or free (Gal 3:28). 

 

In marriage the man is head of the wife;  she is the weaker vessel and he is to lead but His example is Christ (as head of the Church) so this rules out disrespect, browbeating and demeaning them. In fact the husband is to cleanse his wife by the washing of the water of the Word.  How refreshing.   A band of women voluntarily followed Jesus and his disciples taking care of their temporal needs which never would have happened if he practiced and taught the kind of attitude toward them that is in you and Daniel on TT.

 

Free to serve the Master - in His love,

judyt

 

 

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

GOOD POINT, DANIEL:
          I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW MANY OF THESE REBELLIOUS WOMEN ON THIS FORUM COVER THEIR HEADS, PER I CORINTH. 11?
          HOLY HUBERT INSISTED UPON SUCH IN HIS SERVICES, BUT, BEING BLIND, HE WAS NOT IN A POSITION TO SEE HOW MANY REBELLIOUS WOMEN WERE "AMONGST US".  AT LEAST, HE KEPT THEM FROM THE PULPIT, AND THEY NEVER PLAYED A ROLE IN WORSHIP, EXCEPT FOR MUSIC.
                ----ELSMAN
P.S.
        I WONDER HOW MANY MEN HEREON INSIST THAT THEIR WIVES COVER THEMSELVES ON THE HEAD WHEN IN WORSHIP SERVICES?

 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Annika and I were able to minister to a young 13 year old girl and we convinced her of the need for females to cover their heads per I Corinthians 11. We also showed to her that the jewish kippah was pagan. HallaluYAH!!!