In a message dated 5/3/2004 2:54:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Daniel's viewpoint and mine are somewhat close, but there is an
important distinction.  I would allow women like Judy to give commentary
on Scripture whereas he would not.  I wonder if he would even allow
women to read Scripture publicly.  My eighteen year old daughter just
performed for a talent show at our church last night.  She quoted from
memory Ephesians 5 in the KJV, passionately acting out the passage in
Shakespearean fashion.  I thought it was very powerful and wonderful to
hear, the best recitation of Scripture I have ever heard.  Of course,
maybe I am biased being her father.  :-)  But some people (maybe Daniel,
Chris, and Jim Elsman?) would consider such as forbidden by 1 Timothy
2:12.  I think, what a shame.  My daughter can recite this chapter much
better than I could, maybe even better than any man I know. 


DAVID,
            I AM A NICE GUY.  THESE REBEL WOMEN DO NOT KNOW HOW SWEET I AM.
             IT IS NOT MY MISSION TO SQUELCH WOMEN.  I WOULD HAVE LOVED TO HAVE SEEN YOUR DAUGHTER READ THE SCRIPTURE, WITH FEELING.
              I JUST TRY TO FOLLOW THE BIBLE:  WOMEN ARE NOT TO HAVE AUTHORITY OVER MEN, BUT ARE TO BE SUBJECT TO MEN.  YOUR DAUGHTER IS OBVIOUSLY SUBJECT TO YOU.  SHE CAN FUNCTION IN ALL CAPACITIES , BUT APOSTLE AND PASTOR.  SHE CAN PREACH; SHE CAN TEACH; SHE CAN PROPHESY.   IF YOU PRESSED ME AND SAID THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH GOOD BLACK MEN IN THE GHETTO TO PASTOR CHURCHES, I MIGHT YIELD TO CIRCUMSTANCES, AND ALLOW A WOMAN TO PASTOR, BUT SHE WOULD STILL HAVE TO BE SUBJECT TO A MALE,  IN REALITY----JUST LIKE JOYCE MEYERS AND MARILYN HICKEY ARE SUBJECT TO THEIR HUSBANDS, BUT YET PASTOR CHURCHES AND RUN SUBSTANTIAL MINISTRIES.
               ----JIM, WHO IS SUBJECT TO HIS WIFE IN ALL AREAS, IF HE WILL JUST ADMIT TO THE TRUTH OF HOW A HOME WORKS, NOTING WELL THE LEVERAGE WOMEN HAVE.

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