Re: [TruthTalk] Christians and violence

[Wm. Taylor]

If I murder someone, I think that's wrong, as it says in the Commandments. If I kill someone, in self-defense, I think it's different. I think there is a difference.   I wonder why the early church did not see it that way? Maybe they didn't hear God's voice telling them to kill people. ----- Original Message ----- From: Slade Henson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 6:33 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christians and violence Good questions. I think there's a difference between "kill" and murder. God did tell His people to kill others in Scripture, but that was God, not man. If I murder someone, I think that's wrong, as it says in the Commandments. If I kill someone, in self-defense, I think it's different. I think there is a difference. Regarding your question on if we can live to please both God and man...I don't think so. I think this is why we have so many problems today. We began to please man (and ourselves) and not God. People are persecuted today for refusing to please man.   Kay -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Terry Clifton Sent: Thursday, 24 June, 2004 08:22 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PROBABLE SPAM> Re: [TruthTalk] Christians and violence      May I say that everything that both you and Izzy said in response to my post was on target. I appreciate both of you and thank you for giving me things to consider. ( There is a time for war,  and a time for peace.  There will be wars and rumors of wars until our Lord returns as a mighty warrior and judge.  God deals with reality, we are still growing, still being conformed.    God has given government the responsibility for protecting it's people, etc.) Still, the real question has not been addressed.  We know what happens when the Lord returns, but what do we do until then? Do we take our place and kill the enemy if that is what our government decides is right, or do we love our enemy and turn the other cheek?  Does it make any difference if we are the agressor or if we act in self defense?  Can we live to please God and men?  Terry