Re: [TruthTalk] Christians and Violence

[Lance Muir]

Judy:Actually, it is. ----- Original Message ----- From: Judy Taylor To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: June 29, 2004 13:21 Subject: [TruthTalk] Christians and Violence Understandable since you, Chris, Jonathan, and Bill are of one heart and one mind in many areas, the ad hominem being one ..... It becomes impossible to discuss for very long without insults and accusations - Is this the wisdom that comes from above? [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Judy:I occasionally get the impression that you haven't. Thus.....   From: Judy Taylor I thought we had advanced from "Can Sally run" and were into discussing spiritual issues where some people's words carry an anointing from the Holy Spirit , others have an anointing from the other spirit and some just fall to the ground.   [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Judyt: No, they don't. They refer away from themselves to reality. That's what they MEAN. A 'chair' is that thing upon which you sit. Men's/women's wc, walk/don't walk etc. From: Judy Taylor They do and what they mean depend on WHO says them - Have you seen Farenheit 9/11 yet Lance?  Do you believe it is based on what is good and true and lovely and of good report?  judyt   From: "Lance Muir" Izzy:words 'mean' things.   From: ShieldsFamily What does THAT mean???????????????????? Izzy   From: Lance Muir Izzy: There are no christian principles. None, notta, don't exist, el hugeo mistako. Nor, are there christian values or morals.     From: ShieldsFamily Lance, You are right. America is not, and never has been officially a Christian nation.  It was just founded by many Christian men, with Christian principles, and that is what makes it so wonderful.  Have you read anything at all about our founders??? Izzy   From:  Lance Muir Izzy:An aside (I think) America was not, is not and, will never be a 'Christian' nation except in name only. Compare Muslim 'nations'.   From: ShieldsFamily I wonder how many more Jews (and others) would have died if every Christian refused to fight for them.  Certainly America would still be an English colony if some Christians had not fought for independence here.  Izzy   I wonder how many Jewish lives pacifism would have cost if every Christian in Germany would have taken Paul's words seriously and refused to fight in Hitler's army? Maybe when Paul said to Christians, "The weapons we fight with are not the weapons of the world," he meant it. No, Judy, it was Christian militancy that cost the Jews "a lot of lives." Bill