John, I am so glad you are excited. Please keep us updated on your study.
 
Bill
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Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 11:58 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Smithson: Kruger is the man.. Smithson waxes an elephant


Some of Kruger in review with embelishment from Smithson:

Started my study with Kruger.   I have to say that I thoroughly enjoy this guy.  I like the sound of bible verses quoted -- he doesn't much care for that but I am a big boy,  I can fill in the blanks.  

I have never considered the teaching of the Trinity to be of any great importance.   I have seen the teaching as a description of God  like  red hair, short, stocky, rugged good looks, and an intellectual prowess that is bordered only by the ends of the galaxy  --that sort of thing but enough about me.   (substitute "Father Son and Spirit" for other description detail)

Kruger assumes the Trinity for a number of reasons (biblical and historical) and presents the idea that central to the reality of the Father, Son and Spirit is the relationship of the three to each other.  We tend to think of fellowship as something that you seek to encounter or restore or to flee from; with God (the Father Son and Holy Spirit) fellowship is something of a life source, it is that which joins the Three.   Kruger describes this fellowship as the womb of human history.  Applied to humans (Let us make man in our image), I am thinking that God gives birth to that which also requires fellowship, and more specifically, fellowship with Him.   And so here we are.   The drag is this, many try to find meaning in their life without God.    In a sense, God is our birthing parent.  We are in His image as a matter of creation. We have no choice. and when we seek other definition, we resist the reality that fully explains who we are.   When we seek other definition, we are a mess.... we kick against the pricks.   When we are involved in passionate fellowship with each other, when our search for God is centered in our outpouring for others (Isa 58:9-11), we find God, we see Him, we realize His presence because He is what we are doing.   We do love -- He is love.  We do fellowship -- his very existence is fellowship (Father Son and Holy Spirit).  In accepting His nature, we move from doing to becoming.  And when we stand in the fulfillment of that "becoming,"  when we are full grown we shine forth His light into this world  --  like Father, like son.   

Such is the impact on my thinking from my first real visit with Kruger.  

Sounds fantastic.  

pastor John

Sorry about the sermon but I will be doing this through my time with these authors (Kruger and Torrance) .   Get the delete button warmed up. 

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