In a message dated 7/15/2004 8:51:22 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

ShieldsFamily wrote:
          Oh, sorry Jonathan, I went to the website and there is a lot of explanation/information there.  One question about what he states: âI believe that sound philosophical arguments support the open view in which God doesnât foreknow the future free decisions of humans.â

How can that be true if God is actually standing outside of âtimeâ as we know it, and can see everything from beginning to end from His perspective? Izzy





Just speculating Iz,so let me throw this out for your consideration.  God is both omnipresent and omniscient, so He can know anything He wants to know.  Yet it seems to me that it would be rather boring, not to mention disheartening, to know beforehand every thing that was going to happen and how it was going to turn out.  No one wants to know beforehand how the movie ends.  I would think that God would at least at times just choose to wait and watch and see what happens.  I get the idea that He did that several times in the old testament, like when he checked out Sodom to see if it was as bad as had been reported to Him, or when He sent plague after plague on Egypt to see what it would take to break Pharaoh.
Any thoughts?
Terry


If eternity is the absence of time, perhaps all that we call history, all that we call the future is, for God, the present  (using a term we are familiar with.)   If you think about it, the future and the past have a time coefficient.   The present does not.   Perhaps in God's eternity, all that goes on (past, present, future) is simply  Reality for God.   If our timed history is a part of His eternity, perhaps He can respond to our circumstance whether that circumstance is past, present or future. Without time (and, hence, a time line [history]), God is free to adjust and move about without the limitations that time would present.  If there is no time, God is in control of the full range of our (timed) reality


John 

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