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I really should already be gone but I wanted to add a comment -- my ego constrains me!!
The reason why we include the 400 (or more) in our search for truth is rather obvious to me and Judy knows this scripture before I am able to finish the text:
Eph 4:11ff " And He gave some as apostles, and some as prophets, and some as evangelists, and some as pastors and teachers for the equipping of the saints [in] their work of service, to the building up of the body of Christ [and will do so] until we attain to the unity of The Faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a mature man [or woman], to the measure of the stature which belongs to the fulness of Christ."
As I see it, Bill and others quote whoever for the same reason we have preachers and teachers. There is a progressive logic that presents Bill with his theological conclusions, more so than a Bible thumper such as myself, but, and it is clear to me, in the final analysis, brother Taylor insists that his conclusion measure up to the biblical message as he understands that message. In other words, he is as Bible based as any one. However, the observation still applies that when we think we know something, we do not yet know it as we ought.
I really should already be gone but I wanted to add a comment -- my ego constrains me!!
The reason why we include the 400 (or more) in our search for truth is rather obvious to me and Judy knows this scripture before I am able to finish the text:
Eph 4:11ff " And He gave some as apostles, and some as prophets, and some as evangelists, and some as pastors and teachers for the equipping of the saints [in] their work of service, to the building up of the body of Christ [and will do so] until we attain to the unity of The Faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a mature man [or woman], to the measure of the stature which belongs to the fulness of Christ."
As I see it, Bill and others quote whoever for the same reason we have preachers and teachers. There is a progressive logic that presents Bill with his theological conclusions, more so than a Bible thumper such as myself, but, and it is clear to me, in the final analysis, brother Taylor insists that his conclusion measure up to the biblical message as he understands that message. In other words, he is as Bible based as any one. However, the observation still applies that when we think we know something, we do not yet know it as we ought.
jt: I don't know about the observation John; nor am I
convinced that the ministry giftings have always been present when one
looks at what is out there. Up until the
Reformation there was just one corrupt system which began by uniting Church and
State and by Luther's generation had become so bad that he risked
everything to take a public stand against it and it was after his breaking
free and the Protestant revold that these other systems arose along with
all of the isms Calvinism vs Arianism etc. so that today there are
many people who profess Christ and who are all speaking different languages
and all claim to be headed for the same place which is totally mind
boggling. I'm glad it is Jesus who is in the process of building His
Church and that He is the one who will direct the sifting of the wheat from the
tares.
However, it is my belief that our
interpretation of God's Word will be much more important than we think since all
judgment in heaven and on earth has been given to Him and we will be judged by
the Word He spoke (John 12:48) Not someone else's interpretation of what that
Word is saying.
In a message dated 7/24/2004 7:43:18 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
jt: These are who you quote Bill and no I didn't just want to insult you; I am sharing my thoughts here, have never been into ad hominem attacks on TT. We are discussing Truth here, right?. Could we just stay with the issues and leave off the personal offenses? (that is taking or giving personal offense) If you are a sincere seeker after Truth you should not be offended to have some of these ideas challenged.
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I do not look to the Scribes for wisdom, Judy; neither do I look to Charles Ryrie. On this occasion I agree with the Scribes over Ryrie. How did you miss that from what I wrote? Oh, I get it: you just wanted to insult me.
Bill
