Re: JUDY ... Re: [TruthTalk] Smithson, Taylor and the Canucks ... especially for y'all

[Chris Barr]

\o/ !HALALU Yah! \o/  Greetings in the Matchless Name of YahShua !   "... and the last shall be first ..."   TBN was born and grew up in my backyard in southern California in the 70s so I can imagine having CBN in your backyard.  The only one of those Christian mega star TV outfits in which I ever saw much good value (and then not much) was ol' Gene Scott's -- ALSO in my backyard.   As I was growing up there were constant, "Oh, if only Elton John or *fill in the blanks with STAR people' were Christian then we could REALLY reach people for Jesus".  If a song made mention of "Lord" then "Did you know that so and so became a Christian?!?" (George Harrison and 'My Sweet Lord', Norman Greenbaum, Doobie Brothers and many ,many others including the off and on John Lennon and Paul McCartney rumors).   You still see that like this morning with the "Bob Dylan is a messianic Jew" from the ill-informed of that ilk.   As to "nice surprises" how about this ... that 'More Excellent Way' book came to our home through one in our congregation.  My wife has been reading it and said she sees a lot of good in it.   Ahava b' YahShua (Love in The SAVIOUR) Baruch YHVH, (Bless The LORD)   Chris Barr a servant of YHVH ----- Original Message ----- From: Judy Taylor To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07/24/2004 11:31 AM Subject: JUDY ... Re: [TruthTalk] Smithson, Taylor and the Canucks ... especially for y'all What a nice surprise Chris, glad to know I haven't alienated everybody :) I was going to write and thank you for the insight about Dylan and the interesting post about philosophy and the Church Fathers.  Shame on us.  Professing Christendom is still so into celebrity; I see it here also as CBN is in our backyard....  judyt [EMAIL PROTECTED]> \o/ !HALALU Yah! \o/  Greetings in the Matchless Name of YahShua !   EXPECT THE UNEXPECTED!   Well, Judy ... bravo, very well put ... I am in complete agreement.   Now ... folks are arriving to PRAISE & WORSHIP YHVH ... or as one very dear and precious elder in the faith is sometime wont to say -- YHVHShua -- so I must be going.   Shabbat Shalom!   Ahava b' YahShua (Love in The SAVIOUR) Baruch YHVH, (Bless The LORD)   Chris Barr a servant of YHVH ----- Original Message ----- From: Judy Taylor To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07/24/2004 11:00 AM Subject: [TruthTalk] Smithson, Taylor and the Canucks ... especially for y'all There are numerous theologians, some of whom are wonderfully Christian, who have read the creation account as allegory and have not taken it literally. And so you are not alone if you conclude that "Adam" represents collective mankind. For several reasons I do not agree with this account. The main is the bloodline. Jesus is go'el, the Seed promised in the garden. If all blood does not go back to the first Adam, then the Second Adam could not redeem all humanity in taking on the flesh of the first; for if he is not of our bloodline, he is not our Kinsmen Redeemer and thus could not represent us.   I don't expect to get any bravo for this but it is true nonetheless so here goes -  leaving the bravos for Dylan et al :).      Jesus' blood does not go back to the first Adam because He did not have a human father and so was born holy without any taint from Adam's fall..    Jesus did not take upon Himself ALL HUMANITY.  He took upon himself the seed of Abraham which is the 'seed of promise'  Hebrews 2:16   The 'seed of promise' came through Isaac (Romans 9:7 and Hebrews 11:18) and this is because he (Isaac) was the child of promise.   You are trying to make what is spiritual biological by joining it to a bloodline.  The ONLY way ALL humanity can reach God is if they come through the door by repentance and continue by faith.   Note: Jesus didn't take anyone's flesh upon himself on the cross.