Those who are quick to judge others on
this forum include every single member. Not a day goes by without some
judging going on. The problem is, one states that they are not quick
to judge but then does so on a repeated basis.
jt: I believe you are
referring to me above as the "one"; you lump what you refer to as
"judging" all together and apparently don't see any difference
between judging a person vs judging their teaching or doctrine. The former is
never good for a professing believer and will cause lots of bad reaping ..
whereas the latter is what the more honorable amongst us or good Bereans make a
practice of doing. There is a difference Jonathan and it saddens me that
you are not able to see it.
Jonathan: I was referring to you as
the ‘one’. I am afraid that you do not see that quite often
your judgments are not about teaching or doctrine but are about the
person. Your judgment on Lance today is a case in point. What you
accused him of simply was not true. There was no bait and switch with
Izzy. When I met with him tonight (we always meet on Friday nights) he
again exclaimed surprise that the quote he gave was not received more
warmly. It is one of his favourite passages from Willard, one that he has
shared with a number of people. Each one has always thought the passage
to be worthwhile. There was no judgment of Lance’s doctrine or
teaching here by you, just a jump attack on Lance. Judy, each of us are
professing believers and each of us judge people on TruthTalk all the time.
We also partake in judging each others doctrine. One day we will
stick to the latter.
I at times attempt to be
funny. I know, I know, I shouldn't do this but well I think I am
funny. I have posted a few parodies (and have a new one in mind if I get
time). Judy doesn't think I am funny. She has actually responded to
my funny posts in a completely serious manner, missing the intended
humor. She has taken seriously what I meant to be funny. We
do this kind of thing all the time on TT. Email is a horrible way of
communicating.
jt: You are right
about this, I don't look for parodies and you in particular have been
offended so often that humor is probably the last thing I would be looking for
in one of your messages or one of Bill Taylors. I do see it in John's
quite often as it is obvious and most of the time the joke is on him.
Humor very often is cultural.
Jonathan: Here is a good example of
how tone can be read into emails when the author doesn’t think it is
present. John has also made a few posts about how easily offended I
am. I would have to ask those close to me to see if this is true of my
character. For a few weeks several months ago it was the ‘in’
thing on Truthtalk to put others down by highlighting their sensitivity.
It even went so far as to call it an emasculated or feminine approach.
This was used very well by a few people against Bill Taylor. From my
point of view, I was hurt very much by the post you put out about me ‘dying
with my CFS.’ I have been frustrated many times in what I perceive
as attempts by you to halt dialogue. I am not sure how many times I have
actually been offended though. Perhaps I am playing at semantics here.
When I read one of your posts my first response is often a form of anger:
frustration at you. Then I usually turn it inward upon myself. I
blame myself for not communicating clearly what is on my heart. If you,
or others, do not pick up on my passion for the Person of Jesus Christ I view
that as my own failure to communicate. John, who does not always see eye
to eye with me does see this passion in me. For that I am grateful.
I look forward to the time that you, Izzy and Terry see this same passion.