Jesus was asked by the Pharisees to rank the greatest commandments. The top two are love the Lord your God and the other is like it Love your neighbor. Just because he gave those two a higher ranking than the other laws does not mean that the lesser ranking laws are no longer in effect. What Jesus wanted the Pharisees to see that even though they were following the law as far as the words were concerned they did not do them out of love. So I go back to what I said earlier. We follow the law because we love the Lord and want to obey Him.
I want to clarify something as well. You would consider God's moral law as loving God and loving your neighbor, correct? Suzy --- Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 15:12:37 -0500 "Slade Henson" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What do you think Jesus, Paul, Timothy, Peter, and > all of the disciples > taught from, Judy? What commandments > IS Jesus speaking of when He says...If you love Me, > you will obey My > commands? Kay > > jt: I don't believe they spent time preparing a > three point sermons Kay, > nor do I believe they sat at the feet of the local > Rabbi. In fact the > fishermen were noted to be 'unlearned' men. Since > Paul was a pharisee he > studied under Gamiliel (I think it was) at some > point but all of that was > useless to him without the revelation of the mystery > he received from > Christ during his time in the desert (Galatians 3:3) > Paul said that > flesh and blood didn't teach him his gospel, he > received it by revelation > and later on the leaders at Jerusalem validated it. > As for Peter, he was > the first to receive this revelation from heaven > about the Christ - Jesus > said "Blessed are you Simon Barjona for flesh and > blood did not reveal > this to you but my Father which is in heaven" > > As for your last question. I've listed His commands > on TT already - > there are NOT 613 of them either.... See John 13:34, > John 15:12, John > 15:17, We are told more than once that the whole law > and the prophets are > fulfilled in one word in the statement "You shall > love your neighbor as > yourself" (Galatians 5:14). What can you add to > make it better or more > perfect? Judyt > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf > Of Judy Taylor > On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 14:48:49 -0500 "Slade Henson" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Maybe Jesus had a copy of the Newer Testament in his > back pocket as He > walked in Israel.....Kay > > jt: What's that supposed to mean Kay and why would > Jesus need a copy of > anything in his 'back pocket' if he had one? After > all he was walking in > the fullness of the Spirit wasn't he? Why have you > taken the seat of the > scornful? > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf > Of Hughes Jonathan > Hi Kay, > I would suggest that Judy is not saying/thinking > what you wrote below. I > perceive Judy as a person who is very much concerned > with matters of > obedience and fearing God. The disconnect may be in > what/who one obeys. > I think that you may place primacy on obedience to > levitical law while > Judy would place primacy on obedience to the moral > law illustrated in > Jesus Christ. Also, I think that Judy and you would > disagree as to what > commandments Jesus was speaking of when He says to > do His commands. > Jonathan Hughes > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Slade Henson > Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 1:31 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] 613 Commands > > > The below would be the essence of what you're > saying, Judy. We don't need > God's law anymore, it was abolished by Christ on the > cross. We certainly > aren't fearing God when we aren't obeying, instead > making up our own > man-made ways of worshipping Him, rather than the > way He told us to do > it. We've figured out and our plan is so much better > than His, wouldn't > you agree? Sounds like it to me, otherwise, why not > do as He says to do > in His commands?? > > Kay > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf > Of Judy Taylor > Sent: Monday, 15 November, 2004 11.13 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [TruthTalk] 613 Commands > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Slade Henson > Too cool! I can do whatever I want and live however > I choose 'cuz I'm > covered by grace!!!! K. > > jt: The above would be the musings of a deceived > soul. True grace is not > a cover for sin. > It is the power proceeding from the resurrection > which enables us to do > as we ought. > Nevertheless I do understand that there is too much > of the above going on > and not > enough fear of God out there because we are living > in the end times when > folk will not > endure 'sound doctrine'. judyt > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf > Of Lance Muir > The indicatives of Grace always preceed the > imperatives of Law. Take a > look > at the paragraph just prior to the decalogue in > Exodus. > > > From: "Susan Petersen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Adhering to the Law of Moses to earn salvation is > > legalism and bondage. There is nothing we can do > to > > earn our salvation. Once again I say that we > follow > > the Law out of love for Jesus. If you love Me you > will > > follow my commandments. And there is no difference > > between God's commandments and Jesus' > commandments. > > > > Suzy > > > > --- Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > jt: Both. All of God's Word is good in balance > and > > > in context that is, > > > when we allow scripture to say what the author > > > intended. There are > > > clearly two Covenants involved here and to > insist > > > that those who have > > > been made free in Christ must also adhere to the > Law > > > of Moses is putting > > > them back into legalism and bondage. > > > > > > On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 09:59:53 -0600 > "ShieldsFamily" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Judy, You have just contradicted yourself. If > you > > > "don't have any > > > objection to any commandment of the Bible > because > > > every word of God is > > > good," then why do you call it "that kind of > > > bondage"? Either it is good > > > OR it is bondage. Which? Izzy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jt: I don't have any objection to ANY > commandment of > === message truncated === __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! http://my.yahoo.com ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." 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