Re: [TruthTalk] Two Covenants

[Jeff Powers]

In reply to David's question, CONTEXT, CONTEXT, CONTEXT.  What is the context of Sha'ul's letter to Galatians? When looked at properely one can (should?) easily see that the issue Sha'ul is addressing is CIRCUMCISION!  What did the Jerusalem Council determine? What we have here is the same legalistic Judaisers causing trouble, and Sha'ul saying that legalistic observance is worthless. Learn YHVH's Torah in and out of love for Him and His son Yeshua. Not out of ignorance. nuff said, Jeff Judy wrote: > There are two covenants Suzy, which are spoken of by > the apostle Paul ie: "It is written that Abraham had two > sons, one by the bondmaid, and one by the freewoman. > Howbeit, the one by the bondmaid is born after the flesh; > but the son by the freewoman is born through promise. > Which things contain an allegory; for these women are > two covenants" (Galatians 4:22-24)  A covenant is not > the same as a commandment. Time and time again, I have observed the concept of "covenant" and "keeping commandments" confused in the dialogue.  What I mean by "confused" is that the distinction between covenant, a relational contract with Yahweh, and keeping Yahweh's teachings and commandments, is blurred. Judy makes an excellent point here.  Clearly, Paul is pointing out two covenants here, right?  I would like to see Suzy, Slade, Jeff, and anyone else address this point.  Do each of you recognize two covenants being talked about by Paul? Peace be with you. David Miller.