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Suzy
--- Jeff Powers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I wish I had the way with words that you do!
> For everyone else, I have seen a verse thrown at
> Slade and he responds verbally just as quick and in
> even more detail! Not that this needs anything more.
> Love it. But then thats why I like studying with
> you anyway!
> Jeff
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Slade Henson
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 21:22
> Subject: [TruthTalk] Walking in the Spirit
>
>
> This is Slade's understanding of the following
> passage. Please understand the bracketed passages
> are Slade's interpretation.
>
> Therefore there is now no condemnation for those
> who are in Christ Jesus. For the law of the Spirit
> of life in Christ Jesus [Torah] has set you free
> from the law of sin and of death [the prescribed
> punishment for rebellion]. For what the Law could
> not do [to give salvation through works], weak as it
> was through the flesh, God {did} sending His own Son
> in the likeness of sinful flesh and {as an offering}
> for sin [to give salvation through faith], He
> condemned sin in the flesh, so that the requirement
> of the Law might be fulfilled in us, who do not walk
> according to the flesh but according to the Spirit
> [in Torah]. For those who are according to the flesh
> set their minds on the things of the flesh, but
> those who are according to the Spirit, the things of
> the Spirit [which is the Torah lifestyle]. For the
> mind set on the flesh is death, but the mind set on
> the Spirit is life and peace [which is Torah],
> because the mind set on the flesh is hostile toward
> God; for it does not subject itself to the law
> [Torah] of God, for it is not even able to do so,
> (Romans 8:1-7)
>
> Now, if you'd be so kind, let me further explain
> some foundational truths as I understand them:
>
> "And He, when He comes, will convict the world
> concerning sin and righteousness and judgment..."
> (John 16:8)
>
> The "He" in this passage is the Spirit of the
> Holy One (i.e., the Holy Spirit/Holy Ghost, etc.)
> and the task He performs is the same task Judy and
> others have said Torah holds... the schoolmaster
> that leads to Messiah. The schoolmaster teaches us
> our sinful nature and our need for Messiah. John
> 16:8 tells us this is a role of the Spirit.
>
> "A Redeemer will come to Zion, And to those who
> turn from transgression in Jacob," declares the LORD
> "As for Me, this is My covenant with them," says the
> LORD: "My Spirit which is upon you, and My words
> which I have put in your mouth shall not depart from
> your mouth, nor from the mouth of your offspring,
> nor from the mouth of your offspring's offspring,
> says the LORD, "from now and forever. Arise, shine;
> for your light has come, and the glory of the LORD
> has risen upon you" (Isaiah 59:20-60:1)
>
> This passage begins with the promise of
> Messiah for those who turn from transgression. Once
> this turning occurs, He bestows the Spirit AND he
> puts His words in the mouth.
>
> "Moreover, I will give you a new heart and put a
> new spirit within you; and I will remove the heart
> of stone from your flesh and give you a heart of
> flesh. I will put My Spirit within you and cause you
> to walk in My statutes, and you will be careful to
> observe My ordinances." (Ezekiel 36:26-27)
>
> This passage must refer to a point after the
> turning from transgression because the Spirit is
> given after "conversion." Therefore, after
> conversion, the Spirit allows us to walk in Torah
> (the statutes). Therefore, a person with the Spirit
> will be careful to observe the commandments of God.
>
> To return to the original passage, I remind you of
> Romans 8:4 which states, "...so that the requirement
> of the Law might be fulfilled in us, who do not walk
> according to the flesh but according to the Spirit."
> When I take the perspectives from the other verses
> stated here, I see that "walking according to the
> Spirit" is walking in submission to Torah and
> obeying the commandments of God.
>
>
>
> By the way, Dave. I did not refer to commentaries
> to construct this idea.
>
> -- slade
>
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