Re: [TruthTalk] Kabbalah

[Judy Taylor]

jt: My we are touchy this morning Slade. Being into Kaballah and a follower of Christ at the same time is not an option Scripture is the plumbline and it violates Isaiah 8:20.  Everything spiritual is not from God.  Se below just one description from the internet......   Bluntly, no one can say for sure when, where or how Kaballah began. Certainly there ARE Egyptian elements clearly stamped-upon Kaballah.. as evidenced by quotations from Egyptian funerary texts which say "Now I have come to the Tree of the Children (the "Tree Of Life" is a central theme of Kaballist lore,) and the Rosy-Faced ('angelic') Beings are with me." Other similarities seem to this writer to establish Egypt as the ancestral home of this Mystical Science.. but that is only my OPINION, and I never offer opinions as 'fact.' Other details of Kaballah point to a later infusion of Greek ideas. For example, the Archangels who caretake the 'branches' of The Tree Of Life are TEN in number in the modern Kaballah; yet two of these are named not in Hebrew but in GREEK. Was Kaballah expanded from the Eight-fold (Ogdoadic) Path common to Egyptian and Hindi antiquity by contact with the 'Ten True Numbers' of the Greek Pythagoreans? PROBABLY SO, I feel.. though that, too, I admit as a mere 'personal inkling' rather than a 'fact.' In the final analysis, the best we may be able to say as of now on the origins of this science, is that it emerged FROM WITHIN.. exactly as it claims.. among the early Hebrews (possibly while immersed in Egyptian cultural influences) and has been refined through many centuries of contact with all the other mystical sciences it has met. But whatever it's origin, Kaballah certainly grew-up ALONGSIDE but not exactly 'within' Judaism.. for Mysticism is based upon SEEING FOR ONESELF (the meaning of the term 'subjective;') while all religions rely upon an 'enforced' Teaching or doctrine, beyond which one is not allowed to safely explore (much like the doctrines of modern 'science' in fact.) It is important from the very outset to make it VERY clear that Kaballah is NOT a religion.. but an Inner Science which happens to be 'worded' in Hebrew, and using all the same names for spirit and spirituality common to all other things Hebraic (including the religion of Judaism.)   On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 05:19:30 -0500 "Slade Henson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Since Kabbalah appears in two forms (Biblical vs. Magical -- to give them quick broad-stroke names), I guess it depends upon which one you're talking about. You can automatically assume it [Kabbalah in any form] is mystical occult garbage and call it "Jewish" (perish the thought!!!).   -- slade   (P.S. Mysticism in the Jewish mindset is what Christians call Spirituality. If you want to call Jewish mysticism occultic then Christian Spirituality is equally occultic.) -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of ShieldsFamily Sent: Thursday, 18 November, 2004 23.39 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [TruthTalk] Kabbalah Does anyone understand anything about Kabbalah? I think it is not something a Christian could be; right? Izzy