David writes, "I have been waiting for the argument
to come forth that the reason the Lord was not angry with Abraham was because of
his covenant with him. ... It seems to me that such reasoning
would go along with what has been argued in the past, ... It seems to
me that the more objective argument from ... those who hold to the unilateral
thesis would be that it really doesn't matter if Abraham was right or wrong
in this situation, ... His right standing with God came from his faith not from
his actions."
I wish my post to G, building on a "(biblical)
unilateral covenant," were finished and posted. In it I raise two points about
which the unilateral covenant is not. The second point addresses the reason we
would not have come up with this as a position from which to argue. In that
post I write, "Perhaps it would be good, since my
desire is to communicate and not confuse, to list a couple things that the
unilateral covenant is not: . . . 2. The unilateral covenant is not a license to sin.
I see this one over and over again: "O, well, if its fulfillment had
nothing to do with Abraham's or Israel's or our actions, then we can sin all we
want to and still be in good standing with our Lord." No! A comment like this
demonstrates ignorance on the part of the one making it. It is not the
unilateral covenant that provokes people to sin -- although there was
a covenant within the covenant which did provoke and consolidate
sin -- nor does it condone sin when it has been provoked. When one
apprehends and then embraces the unilateral nature of the covenant it provokes a
response of awe and worship, yes, even obedience -- but not
sin."
As I'm sure are most of yours, excepting of course the Canadians, my week
has been crazy in preparation for thanksgiving. I haven't had nor do I
anticipate getting much time to write. Maybe come the weekend I will finish G's
post and get it out.
Blessings,
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2004 5:49
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Unilateral
covenant
> to the great and gracious Lord God of heaven for the life and abundance of
> good things that he gives unto the people of his covenant.
>
> Concerning the Abraham / Abimelech incident of Gen. 20:
>
> Although virtually every commentary of man condemns Abraham in this
> situation, I find it interesting that arguments have been put forth that
> tend to villify Abraham and praise Abimelech. For example, Jonathan made
> the argument recently that Abimelech was righteous in this situation and
> Abraham was not. Such an argument is made based upon the actions of each
> men. The reasoning is that Abraham deceived Abimelech and so he was in the
> wrong. Abimelech, on the other hand, supposedly acted innocently, and when
> the Lord made clear to him that he was sinning against Abraham, he went way
> beyond the call of duty in his repentance by giving Abraham many valuable
> gifts. Depsite the actions of these men, one thing seems clear in the text.
> The anger of the Lord was kindled against Abimelech but not against Abraham.
> While human reasoning leads us to look disfavorably upon Abraham in this
> situation, we are still left with the fact that the Lord's anger was against
> Abimelech but not Abraham.
>
> I have been waiting for the argument to come forth that the reason the Lord
> was not angry with Abraham was because of his covenant with him. The Lord
> had a covenant with Abraham but not with Abimelech. Therefore, because of
> this covenant, perhaps Abraham was viewed as righteous before God whereas
> Abimelech was not, even though Abraham had been deceptive and Abimelech had
> acted with integrity and honesty. I don't know why this point has not been
> argued, so I will present it myself as a possibility and see what the
> response is. It seems to me that such reasoning would go along with what
> has been argued in the past, so I find it very interesting that the focus of
> the arguments has been upon ascribing evil motives to Abraham rather than
> upon the covenant. It seems to me that the more objective argument from
> your those who hold to the unilateral thesis would be that it really doesn't
> matter if Abraham was right or wrong in this situation, and that is the
> point. His right standing with God came from his faith not from his
> actions.
>
> Now if there is silence on this, I guess from past posts I can only assume
> that it is because you are afraid of a setup. Although I certainly like to
> challenge concepts and expect to continue to do so, I will try to exercise
> enormous restraint and allow most of my criticisms to be dealt with
> privately. That does not mean that I won't make some effort to challenge
> the idea that I just put forth. Even though I consider it a good idea and
> one that I might be in a position to argue, I have questions about it and
> would love to see objections answered concerning it.
>
> Concerning this process of attempting to falsify ideas, I hope that many of
> you try to understand the difference between challenging an idea through
> attempting to falsify it, and the sinful practice of attacking a person with
> the purpose of humiliating and condemning that person. Please do not hold
> onto your imaginative speculations so tightly that if someone were to
> disprove your perception of something, then such would be equivalent in your
> mind to ascribing evil motives to you and condemning you. All one needs to
> do is lay aside their false perception and agree with the one who has shown
> it to be false, then such a person would be in the clear. Another approach
> is simply to consider another alternative, maybe one being put forth, raise
> objections to it and attempt to falsify it. Only by tenaciously holding
> onto our false concepts and false ways would we find ourselves in the
> position of being condemned along with the false viewpoint.
>
> Peace be with you.
> David Miller.
>
>
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