In a message dated 11/24/2004 9:20:27 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

"blast you into the next judgment"?  LOL.  I think you are getting a little
excited here.  Context, John.


Read you response to me, DAvid.   Context is what I have.   Implying that I am in danger from a wrathful God, that I blasphemed is your contribution.   I guess that makes me right   ---    again. 



I am not trying to argue that God told


Abraham to do it.  I am trying to help you see that based upon what the text
says, for all we know, something very different could have taken place.


How do you define "condescension?"

My


point is, we don't know.  God might have told him to do it, or maybe Abraham
was willing, as you say, to let men sleep with his wife.  Based upon the
text, we don't know. 


The other day you your knowledge of this event led you cahrge me with blasphemy.   Glad to see you soften up a little,   Your argument, such as it is, comes from your interpretation of the silence of scripture.   Abraham may have gotten this instruction from Adamic oral tradition  --  we can't disprove that one either.   For me and my house,  we will stick with what has been said in the text. 


You argued from the text that you are right.  I'm


arguing that based upon the text, we don't know. 


Your's in not a textual argument,  It is a philosophical one.  Suppositional. 


You infer his willingness


to share his wife.  I infer that he thought being her brother put him in a
better position to protect his wife.  If he is dead, he can't protect her
from them.



David continues: 
No, I am sticking by what Gen. 20:11 says.� It says that Abraham observed
that they did not fear God, and he believed that they would kill him for his
wife.� So, he thought it best to say that she was his sister.� Nowhere does
it say that Abraham was willing for men of power to sleep with his wife.� In
fact, the text tells us that Abraham in league with God was able to stop men
from sleeping with his wife.�

And why do you present this last idea?  If you are going to answer with more supposition, take  a pass.   I am not interested in suppositional considerations. 


Those are the [suppositional] facts.� These facts tell me that
Abraham was not willing to share his wife with others.�

I realize that you
see it differently, but you should be careful how far you go to judge
Abraham to have such evilness in his heart.

Why ?   Why do I have to be careful.    More reprisals from you or did you have something else in mind.  By the way David  --  I do not take your warnings, rebukes and whatever in a personal way.   When it comes to the ebuke thing  --  I see you as completely outside the will of God and have no need to take it personally.  I do find some of your considerations important but the David-Rebuke-Speak has nothing to do with whether I come to agree with you or not.....nothing.   You have fairly good reasoning skills, a good head knowledge of the Book but you think it is your calling to chastise and rebuke rather than continue some girlie-man sense of brotherhood and fellowship.   And that last point redenders your effective testimoney mute.   Christ adapted His presentation to the audience before him  --  you do not. 

Incidently, have we said all that can be said about this Abrham thing.  I think we are at the "yes he did" "no he didn't" juncture.  

John





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