Thanks, Bill, but that's what I am trying to pin down for sure.  I assume
Lance will say that he doesn't personally approve of it, but that we
shouldn't allow "religious" (read moral) laws to be administered.  However,
EVERY law is a moral law.  And if one opposes abortion personally but
approves of it corporately, isn't that a bit hypocritical? If it is wrong
then why approve of anyone doing it? There are people who suffer every time
it is done (the babies who are slaughtered, the person who got the abortion,
the people who helped administer the abortion, and society at large. I
believe the entire Creation moans every time such a travesty is committed.)I
wish to be written down in God's book as one who did not stand passively by
with the excuse, "Well, I never personally thought it was the correct thing
to do."  He will say, "Why didn't you do what you could to stop it?" Izzy

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Um, Izzy, I think maybe you ought to go back now and read what Lance wrote.
He can defend himself, if he so chooses, but until then, it doesn't look to
me like he has said anything that should lead you to believe that he
supports abortion on demand.

Bill

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Subject: [TruthTalk] Abortion/Supreme Court Sin


> The Supreme Court decided that there was a fictitious right for women to
> abort living, healthy unborn children.  They did this based upon some
> imaginary "rights" that they suddenly discovered in the Constitution
(which
> by the way nobody can find by reading it). Just another example of ungodly
> men pulling something out of thin air to justify their own opinions,
instead
> of basing their rulings upon the actual Constitution.  This was the first
> and only time they made such a ruling without the benefit of ANY judicial
> precedents, I believe. In America laws are supposed to be made by the
> legislative branch of gov't--not by the judicial.  And any needed changes
to
> the Constitution are supposed to be made by the desires of the majority of
> the citizens and the legislature.
>
> Why is it, Lance, that you seem to have no problem with abortion on
demand?
> I thought you were Catholic.  My brother is Catholic and that is the ONLY
> issue he ever bases his votes upon.
>
> Are you aware that women abort for any reason at any time during their
> pregnancy, up until and including the moment of birth? Do you realize that
> they are murdering, without benefit of anesthesia, by cutting up into
pieces
> or by burning to death in an acidic salt solution, or by actually
puncturing
> and sucking out the infants brain and crushing the skull during delivery?
> How can this not be abhorrent to anyone with the indwelling Holy Spirit? I
> find it revolting to have to write it down.
>
> Izzy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
> Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 12:49 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Schizophrenic God
>
> I can. I don't believe the 'hand of God' is any more on America than it is
> on Iraq. Religion, which originates with you know who (Satan), has no
place
> in a secular society (read America) Jeus, on the other hand, when
occupying
> a place in the hearts of America's citizenry, can effect great change
within
> such a society.
>
>
> From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: November 29, 2004 13:06
> Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The Schizophrenic God
>
>
> > No comment, but you can hear what I'm thinking. :-) Izzy
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
> > Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 11:28 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Schizophrenic God
> >
> > I find it difficult to understand disagreeing with either of those lower
> > court decisions.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: November 29, 2004 12:14
> > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Schizophrenic God
> >
> >
> > > John Smithson wrote:
> > > > I wasn't aware that the Supreme Court used "open dynamic
> > > > theology" to negate precious court decisions
> > > > Do you have an example?
> > >
> > > Roe v. Wade?
> > >
> > > The same principle is used in lower courts to keep creation theories
out
> > of
> > > the classroom and to order the Ten Commandments to be removed from
> display
> > > in the courthouse and hidden in a closet somewhere while the Greek
gods
> > are
> > > allowed to be on display and Bill Clinton's name is etched in the
> > > cornerstone of that federal courthouse.
> > >
> > > Peace be with you.
> > > David Miller.
> > >
> > >
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