Terry wrote:
Who gets your tithe?

Kay wrote:
The orphan, the widow, the priest, and the
foreigner among us. This would be the rabbi
or pastor, the poor family needing assistance,
the homeless man who hangs out on Falkenburg
and Causeway, the family whose house burnt down,
hosting a meal for congregation members, baking
for the elderly couple.

I don't think this is the tithe that Terry is talking about. This tithe was to be cyclical, done every three years. Is that what you do, or is this commandment disobeyed by doing it every year?


Terry wrote:
Why offer an ox or a dove when Jesus paid it all?

Kay wrote:
There is no temple.

Which ought to tell us God's attitude about our obedience toward a covenant with God based upon Torah. If the commandments were meant to be taken literally and not spiritually, would not God have preserved the temple? Clearly, the destruction of the temple speaks volumes to us about how our relationship with God is not based upon Torah but upon faith in Jesus Christ.


Kay wrote:
There was no sacrifice for intentional sin.
Jesus paid that.

Jesus did not pay any sacrifice for intentional sin. His sacrifice was for sins of ignorance. The Torah is clear that those who commit intentional sin are cut off from the covenant... no hope of repentance or forgiveness. The author of Hebrews reiterates this in the following passage concerning the Covenant in Messiah:


Hebrews 10:26-31
(26) For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
(27) But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
(28) He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
(29) Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
(30) For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
(31) It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.


Compare what is said here with your knowledge of Torah concerning intentional / presumptuous sin and you will find that this text simply carries over the teaching of Torah and continues it in the New Covenant.

Peace be with you.
David Miller.



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